Del. Dumais sums up her role on SB281 in Post interview

[gedelea]

The strategy to go after donors was only proposed at the last minute. She had made a deal with MOM several days prior, and had already turned coat by then.

By pretending to be with us, she probably got a better deal from MOM,

The donor strategy was a good one. I don't think we thought out a fully strategy because we expected our legislators to respond to reason, the facts and common sense. We should stay on the donor strategy as a way to continually weaken support for several targeted legislators.

 

[occbrian]

Low hanging fruit is just that. The Brochin's and Youngs are a given. They are done.

I can think of a certain vice chair of a certain committee that will bear the full force of whatever I can muster between now and 2014.

 

[Brooklyn]

Aim high. Aim very high. Don't say it can't be done.

If we apply our resources well we can hurt them, and if we continue the push we can shift the tide. If we throw our all at their strongholds and fail, we may just look impotent. And many of our supporters will be discouraged.


Even a small victory can be impact full if we follow up. To my mind it is vital that a price be paid in Annapolis. This may mean that moco gets a pass for now. It does not mean that the next cycle we will not take them on.

 

[sykesville]

Aim high. Aim very high. Don't say it can't be done.

+1

Go straight for the jugular, is my motto. She's the friggin jugular. I witnessed her on the floor in person. She needs to be not elected in the future.

 

[occbrian]

The donor strategy was a good one. I don't think we thought out a fully strategy because we expected our legislators to respond to reason, the facts and common sense. We should stay on the donor strategy as a way to continually weaken support for several targeted legislators.

Synergy.

ALAMO+DINO+VOLUNTEERISM+VOTING+EDUCATION(MSI)+CAMPAIGN DIRTY WORK(MDFASS)=WIN

it won't work if any one of those items is missing from the equation. I hate to use the term synergy, but it's perfect.

All interested parties have to work together from different angles of attack to reach our common goal. Making sure there are consequences to violating our 2A rights.

 

[teratos]

The donor strategy was a good one. I don't think we thought out a fully strategy because we expected our legislators to respond to reason, the facts and common sense. We should stay on the donor strategy as a way to continually weaken support for several targeted legislators.

Yes it is. If we can get lists of all donors, particularly those in the business community, that would be great. We can find the businesses who support anti-2A candidates and publish their names. The gun community can cease to support them until they agree not to donate to those people. There are so many levels where we can apply pressure with a minimal time commitment.

 

[Brooklyn]

Low hanging fruit is just that. The Brochin's and Youngs are a given. They are done.

I can think of a certain vice chair of a certain committee that will bear the full force of whatever I can muster between now and 2014.

If we can expand our activities without weakening our impact, I am with you. I have no inside info, so if we are stronger than I think great. Believe me I want what you want,maybe even more.

 

[HoCoShooter]

Just curious, but at what point during the election cycles are donor lists made public? Is it a living public document that is updated as money comes in?

 

[dogbone]

Low hanging fruit is just that. The Brochin's and Youngs are a given. They are done.

I can think of a certain vice chair of a certain committee that will bear the full force of whatever I can muster between now and 2014.

If we can expand our activities without weakening our impact, I am with you. I have no inside info, so if we are stronger than I think great. Believe me I want what you want,maybe even more.

I would even sell off all my high capacity magazines for my revolvers to help make that happen.

 

[Skins_Brew]

Just curious, but at what point during the election cycles are donor lists made public? Is it a living public document that is updated as money comes in?

They have to file reports and it is made public when they file. During an election year it looks like they have to file a few times. We will probbaly see reports at the end of the year, but i dont know

 

[occbrian]

They have to file reports and it is made public when they file. During an election year it looks like they have to file a few times. We will probbaly see reports at the end of the year, but i dont know

I'm not in front of my notes, but annuals in January and another report near election time during the election year(s) your PAC is active. When you form a PAC, you declare the purpose and election cycle (can be multiple).

 

[Skins_Brew]

I'm not in front of my notes, but annuals in January and another report near election time during the election year(s) your PAC is active. When you form a PAC, you declare the purpose and election cycle (can be multiple).

end of the year=jan

 

[HoCoShooter]

Thanks guys.

 

[Mr Bear]

Politics

And you know that 'cause...?

This change in leadership may take a while to accomplish because their constituents love them & while we may be very vocal, the voters want these knuckleheads to represent them.

Let's not forget that the delegates & senators from Balto City, PG & Mont counties were the voting majority that supported the bill. This majority are the ones we need to target with our votes.

 

[Not_an_outlaw]

I think getting them un-elected would be easy if we had a good plan....and stuck to it. Like an above poster said, just boycott the anti-gun suporters. Imagine how many businesses could survive with a 25% decrease in business. Probably not many. Buy your fuel in boardering states, your food, your clothes, everything. Maryland is small enough for this to occur. Look at all the counties that border another state!

 

[Jim12]

I don't see how she looks like a hero to anyone. She told us she had big problems with aspects of the bill, then she drove the whole stinking thing through as-is.

She might look like a hero to her constituents, because Montco is the right coast's equivalent of the left coast, and is competing to outdo it.

If I were standing in front of Giant Food in downtown Bethesda on a sunny Sunday morning like 4/7/13, and sporting a petition regarding SB281, I would have people standing in line around the store to sign up -- IF I told them that supporting SB281 would save childrens' lives by banning assault weapons. I would have about 30 seconds of contact with them on their way to the Apple Store or another downtown Bethesda retailer.

If I were to advertise and promise that it would also ban the NRA, the crowd in Bethesda might swell to near-riotous proportions.

Some of our 2-A brothers and sisters throughout Maryland just don't seem to relate to the sheer numbers of people in the urban centers of MoCo, Baltimore, and P.G., versus the rest of us. We are outnumbered. We need to be a lot smarter than them, or at least have the law and facts on our side. We do.

WE ARE IN THE MINORITY. Get used to it, and make use of it. The Constitution protects you. That's why it's there. Referendums don't!

 

[gedelea]

Just curious, but at what point during the election cycles are donor lists made public? Is it a living public document that is updated as money comes in?

Others please chime in but I think the tactic is to stop the flow of money from historical donors of record. Trying to stop the money after it has been donated is too late.

I think donor records are already listed on this site from the last electoral cycle.

OCC is right. Multi-pronged approach...a death of a thousand cuts. The opposition patrol this page and look for our tactics, but since they are less in numbers and are on the wrong side of a logical and historical argument they cannot twart this type of tactic. If the 3000-4000 people who showed up for the big rally start hitting them on all fronts between now and 2014 5-8 of them will drop like flies no matter what they do.

 

[Brooklyn]

I think getting them un-elected would be easy if we had a good plan....and stuck to it. Like an above poster said, just boycott the anti-gun suporters. Imagine how many businesses could survive with a 25% decrease in business. Probably not many. Buy your fuel in boardering states, your food, your clothes, everything. Maryland is small enough for this to occur. Look at all the counties that border another state!

I like this idea. Now I am about 40 min from pa. I am motivated. I am pissed. But can I really do this 100%. Can anyone? I will try, and it will cost me more in gas and time but I am pissed so I will do what I can.

Now will others? I think a total boycott is unlikely but we can make a dent ..maybe 10% decline in revenue. That is an Impact....

 

[llkoolkeg]

Del. Dumass is exactly the species of snake that if not completely crushed under heel and beheaded, will somehow find a way to sink fangs in your ankle with her last unholy breath.

 

[Jim12]

Low hanging fruit is just that. The Brochin's and Youngs are a given. They are done.

I can think of a certain vice chair of a certain committee that will bear the full force of whatever I can muster between now and 2014.

Yes, but we should expect every contingency from the other side; expect lifesavers and huge money influxes from Bloomberg or whoever. Need to be ready to immediately respond to, and discredit an outside special interest trying to affect our elections. He already bought, or at least rented, our state legislature.

Last I heard, Bloomberg doesn't vote here.