SB281 Real Time Discussion Thread

[tsmith1499]

My oral testimony tomorrow will be about listening to 3 days worth of debate from supposedly educated lawyers that were VERY UN-educated when it comes to firearms and the facts associated with them. I know we are supposed to play nice, but after the last 3 days of crap we've all listened to I'm gonna make my 1 minute count. They might not like it or listen but I sure will feel a HELL of a lot better!!

 

[Multifaceted]

This is the latest voting report from Senator Getty for the motion of cloture:

As Sen. Brinkley began to speak, a motion was made by Sen. Garagiola to limit debate to 2 hours (one hour for the opponents and one hour for the proponents).
The cloture vote passed 29-18. The opponents will continue debate for one hour at which time the third reader vote will take place.
The roll call vote on cloture follows:

Voting for Cloture in Favor of the Passage of SB 281
Benson
Conway
Currie
DeGrange
Ferguson
Forehand
Frosh
Garagiola
Gladden
Jones-Rodwell
Kasemeyer
Kelley
King
Madaleno
Manno
McFadden
Miller
Middleton
Montgomery
Muse
Peters
Pinsky
Pugh
Ramirez
Raskin
Robey
Rosapepe
Young
Zirkin
Voting Against Cloture in Opposition of the Passage of SB 281
Astle
Brinkley
Brochin
Colburn
Dyson
Edwards
Getty
Glassman
Jacobs
Jennings
Kittleman
Klausmeier
Mathias
Pipkin
Reilly
Shank
Simonaire
Stone

 

[AC20814]

Yes, this now only requires a simple majority to pass the Senate and move to the house.

 

[Brooksy]

Any chance we can pressure one of the senators who voted for cloture enough to get them to bring a motion to reconsider and change their vote to stop the limit of debate? I'm not sure if that's possible, but they did it with amendments last night. Might be worth flooding Degrange and Middleton's offices with calls.

 

[Haides]

Fixed...

He voted against the second reading and voted for all of our amendments, then switched last minute.

 

[ELEMENT94]

That may be the case but Miller is telling him how to vote. You're still getting played.

Thats what he does. He's a follower.

 

[csanc123]

Rigged Rigged Rigged. No other explanation...look at how the vote went down. Brochin ONLY voted against cloture cause Miller had the votes...otherwise the result would have been the same.


I HAVE no f'n faith in the MD political process. This is straight up bull. Senator Nancy Jacobs called this one. She was dead on that this is rigged.

 

[tsmith1499]

Miller LET him vote for filibuster to provide cover. He pissed of a lot of people when he told over 100 people at a town hall he would not vote for any bill with licensing. He then voted for it in committee to bring it to the floor with licensing I'm it. He lies to shut people up. Miller is trying to save him.

TOO LATE!!! Unless he votes against it when the REAL vote comes around. HE's toast to a lot of people that CAN make a difference.

 

[JasonB]

I'm more pissed about DeGrange. He was with us the whole time.

Degrange is playing you. He hopes that by voting against the bill in the main vote he will look like he is standing up for your rights.

 

[JasonB]

Uh oh - sounds like McFadden is officiating again - Miller is probably on the floor making threats.

 

[goofy810]

I love this letter guns can't read hehe the guns must be from Bmore county hehe

 

[tjv4163]

go to independent!!! To much D and R crap! Thats what ruins this country!

 

[pitpawten]

If he was really against it he would have supported the filibuster.

Though I would like for this bill to die a swift death, I personally dislike filibuster as a tactic by either side. It reeks of gamesmanship and (I believe) is indicative of the lack of professionalism and weighty sense of duty that our Legislature displays these days.

That being said, there are so many other things wrong in this process from lying, to bullying etc.

I just personally dislike filibuster and were I in the senate, I might truly be able to say I do not support the bill, vote against it, but not be for filibuster.

Just sayin...

./$.02

 

[primerk5]

This is the latest voting report from Senator Getty for the motion of cloture:

you get a recall on this message? I did.

Got another version

 

[tsmith1499]

go to independent!!! To much D and R crap! Thats what ruins this country!

IF you do that you cannot vote in the primaries which is where these people will be defeated. Not the general election. Remember, they have to be ON the ballot to be VOTED FOR!!!

 

[Rn110rn110]

The iPhone link is working!

 

[Bohlieve410]

Freestate Dinos needs to ramp it up. We need to turn Maryland all Democratic. So we can mess up their governing from the inside.

 

[Shaggy]

TOO LATE!!! Unless he votes against it when the REAL vote comes around. HE's toast to a lot of people that CAN make a difference.

I agree. When I get chance to send him a email, I'm going to thank him for saving me $25 on my license and will donate it to his opponite in2014 even if I'm not in his district.

 

[rjefmiller]

Changing your voter registration is easy. I changed to R for the primaries, and then changed back to unaffiliated after. Unlike the proposed GUN registration, you can change voter registration up until 30 days before the election, or 30 days after...

 

[MikeTF]

My oral testimony tomorrow will be about listening to 3 days worth of debate from supposedly educated lawyers that were VERY UN-educated when it comes to firearms and the facts associated with them. I know we are supposed to play nice, but after the last 3 days of crap we've all listened to I'm gonna make my 1 minute count. They might not like it or listen but I sure will feel a HELL of a lot better!!

Absolutely right! Clearly, they are clueless about firearms, especially Frosh!