Fighting hoarders, preppers, and panicking people to get ammo

[AntiGun]

I've had enough fighting with the preppers, panicky people, and hoarders.
Ammo online is gone.
Ammo disappears from the stores as fast as they place it on the shelf, sometimes it does not even make it to the shelf.
At what point do the hoarders, panicky people and preppers have enough?

I went to Fallston to buy two boxes of WWB 9mm for my wife to practice with so as to not use up expensive SD rounds and there was a line of people staring at an empty cabinet. The younger clerk explained to me they had just sold out of the 338 boxes of 9mm they put out today. One person bought 40 boxes. Mind you these are 100 round boxes some of which he had to keep stacked on the floor near his feet due to lack of space. The clerk then tells me they have sold 7,000,000 rounds in 3 months, most of that being in the last month. Yes that is 7 million from only one Walmart albeit in a more affluent area than most.

I don't care how many guns you have you can't fire more than a few of them in a defensive situation and you're not going to be reloading hundreds upon hundreds of times. The probability of a single household surviving an extended defensive situation involving dozens of repeated attacks is going to be low no matter what you have, short of an old missile silo and a tank.

I'm all for being prepared for disasters or civil disruption but you guys that are hoarding and prepping for armageddon are living in the wrong part of the country. The east coast metro areas are screwed if something severe happens here. The best we can hope for in the metro areas are for disruptions followed by restoration of order within weeks, keeping our families and neighbors safe in the meantime. Otherwise, welcome to Sarajevo.

For those of you getting ready for revolution you really should plan a little better. The term was actually used at me in Walmart today by an older clerk who decided to take off his tinfoil hat and explain how the Newtown shooting 'actually' happened. He exclaimed the bushmaster was not found on the school grounds and was really placed there to give plausiblity to disarmament of the public to stop the upcoming revolution. Ahh conspiracies, the stuff of revolutions. Revolutions happen with groups fighting to overthrow or repel an unwanted authority. Revolutions don't happen based on you holing up in your 'bunker' with tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and MRE's. Revolutions happen with groups in the open not from individuals behind locked doors.

Calm the **** down already.

 

[Inigoes]

You're upset you couldn't find ammo, aren't you?

 

[Crab Bait]

THEY started it.

 

[Docster]

By definition, for hoarders and preppers there's no such thing as too much. What we have here is a panic buying situation resulting from perceptions of potential political fallout from recent national events.

There is no 'real' shortage of ammo being manufactured, just an increase in the usual buying pattern. That buying pattern will return to normal levels soon.

However, having said that, it's times like these that some folks buy ammo on a continual basis throught the year, like 'dollar cost averaging', so as to accumulate it for times like these.......

PS. I don't think the 7 mil statement was just from 1 Walmart.....maybe the region or entire chain?

 

[JMintzer]

You're upset you couldn't find ammo, aren't you?

Looks like it...

 

[AntiGun]

You're upset you couldn't find ammo, aren't you?

 

[Plainolme]

I think the preppers might have already had some set aside. Almost as if they were prepared...

 

[AntiGun]

By definition, for hoarders and preppers there's no such thing as too much. What we have here is a panic buying situation resulting from perceptions of potential political fallout from recent national events.

There is no 'real' shortage of ammo being manufactured, just an increase in the usual buying pattern. That buying pattern will return to normal levels soon.

However, having said that, it's times like these that some folks buy ammo on a continual basis throught the year, like 'dollar cost averaging', so as to accumulate it for times like these.......

PS. I don't think the 7 mil statement was just from 1 Walmart.....maybe the region or entire chain?

Given the source was a Walmart clerk and not a Walmart accountant it may certainly cover more than the one store.

ps. I do get the current political / social climate relative to normal purchases but the stuff we're seeing lately goes beyond what could be justified. I've unfortunately blasted through my practice ammo. Bad timing...

 

[mike_in_md]

Your Avatar "I'm not armed, please don't hurt me" seems so appropriate.

 

[HollowPoint]

Nooooo.... the real preppers have already stocked up. You must mean the trying to prepare-ers!

I've had enough fighting with the preppers, panicky people, and hoarders.
Ammo online is gone.
Ammo disappears from the stores as fast as they place it on the shelf, sometimes it does not even make it to the shelf.
At what point do the hoarders, panicky people and preppers have enough?

I went to Fallston to buy two boxes of WWB 9mm for my wife to practice with so as to not use up expensive SD rounds and there was a line of people staring at an empty cabinet. The younger clerk explained to me they had just sold out of the 338 boxes of 9mm they put out today. One person bought 40 boxes. Mind you these are 100 round boxes some of which he had to keep stacked on the floor near his feet due to lack of space. The clerk then tells me they have sold 7,000,000 rounds in 3 months, most of that being in the last month. Yes that is 7 million from only one Walmart albeit in a more affluent area than most.

I don't care how many guns you have you can't fire more than a few of them in a defensive situation and you're not going to be reloading hundreds upon hundreds of times. The probability of a single household surviving an extended defensive situation involving dozens of repeated attacks is going to be low no matter what you have, short of an old missile silo and a tank.

I'm all for being prepared for disasters or civil disruption but you guys that are hoarding and prepping for armageddon are living in the wrong part of the country. The east coast metro areas are screwed if something severe happens here. The best we can hope for in the metro areas are for disruptions followed by restoration of order within weeks, keeping our families and neighbors safe in the meantime. Otherwise, welcome to Sarajevo.

For those of you getting ready for revolution you really should plan a little better. The term was actually used at me in Walmart today by an older clerk who decided to take off his tinfoil hat and explain how the Newtown shooting 'actually' happened. He exclaimed the bushmaster was not found on the school grounds and was really placed there to give plausiblity to disarmament of the public to stop the upcoming revolution. Ahh conspiracies, the stuff of revolutions. Revolutions happen with groups fighting to overthrow or repel an unwanted authority. Revolutions don't happen based on you holing up in your 'bunker' with tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and MRE's. Revolutions happen with groups in the open not from individuals behind locked doors.

Calm the **** down already.

 

[Indiana Jones]

Sorry you couldnt find ammo. Its a busy time. Im lucky to stumble upon some here and there. Im frustrated too but there isnt a damn thing we can do about it short of buy a factory and make ammo.

 

[Gummy]

Sorry you couldnt find ammo. Its a busy time. Im lucky to stumble upon some here and there. Im frustrated too but there isnt a damn thing we can do about it short of buy a factory and make ammo.

MDS group buy on the ammo factory

 

[jpk1md]

I've had enough fighting with the preppers, panicky people, and hoarders.

First, its not the preppers......they planned ahead and are sitting back with smug looks on their faces watching everyone else.

Second.....and no offense intended.....but it sounds like you didn't fall into the first group because if you had, you would have just pulled a box or two from your stash and not gotten all worked up about it.

There's a lesson here folks.....don't procrastinate on putting back things you think you're going to need.

I had a similar discussion with a friend that lives just outside of NYC.....she was whining that post Sandy no one was providing them with assistance.

I countered that while there are people who genuinely lost everything and need and DESERVE our help.....the vast majority of people with their hands out are the sheeple that bought a new iPhone 5 or Playstation instead of putting up 20 gals of fuel and a week of food/water.

Had they done so not only wouldn't they be a burden on emergency services but they would be able to help OTHERS.

NOW is the time you should be purchasing that generator you've toyed with purchasing, a couple cans of stabilized fuel, long term food. some water and a water purifier.

In 6 months when ammo is avail and prices hopefully aren't too crazy then put up a little something for a rainy day.

Use your heads folks and plan ahead whenever possible

 

[AntiGun]

First, its not the preppers......they planned ahead and are sitting back with smug looks on their faces watching everyone else.

Second.....and no offense intended.....but it sounds like you didn't fall into the first group because if you had, you would have just pulled a box or two from your stash and not gotten all worked up about it.

There's a lesson here folks.....don't procrastinate on putting back things you think you're going to need.

I had a similar discussion with a friend that lives just outside of NYC.....she was whining that post Sandy no one was providing them with assistance.

I countered that while there are people who genuinely lost everything and need and DESERVE our help.....the vast majority of people with their hands out are the sheeple that bought a new iPhone 5 or Playstation instead of putting up 20 gals of fuel and a week of food/water.

Had they done so not only wouldn't they be a burden on emergency services but they would be able to help OTHERS.

NOW is the time you should be purchasing that generator you've toyed with purchasing, a couple cans of stabilized fuel, long term food. some water and a water purifier.

In 6 months when ammo is avail and prices hopefully aren't too crazy then put up a little something for a rainy day.

Use your heads folks and plan ahead whenever possible

As far as I am concerned it is not raining yet, unfortunately. I don't want to cut into any reserves just yet for teaching purposes. I can't afford to keep 1000's of rounds of 9mm around due to price, space limitations and practicality.
The current situation is just absurd and frustrating knowing that it is all kneejerk reactionism.

I do keep a week's worth of everything aside from whatever the family normally has around anyway. I'm not a prepper or doomsdayer by any standards but I do fit the boyscout motto for the most part. I'd actually be ready for the hurricane.

I'm just worked up because all this craziness makes gun owners look bad, particularly the conspiracy/revolution nuts,

 

[boricuamaximus]

is it hard to find ammo?

 

[jpk1md]

is it hard to find ammo?

hahahahahaha

 

[kookymonstir]

As far as I am concerned it is not raining yet, unfortunately. I don't want to cut into any reserves just yet for teaching purposes. I can't afford to keep 1000's of rounds of 9mm around due to price, space limitations and practicality.
The current situation is just absurd and frustrating knowing that it is all kneejerk reactionism.

I do keep a week's worth of everything aside from whatever the family normally has around anyway. I'm not a prepper or doomsdayer by any standards but I do fit the boyscout motto for the most part. I'd actually be ready for the hurricane.

I'm just worked up because all this craziness makes gun owners look bad, particularly the conspiracy/revolution nuts,

It is frustrating to say the least. Call me a"prepper" if you like but it just makes sense to keep a healthy stock of ammo on hand for times when people get panicky. Like someone said earlier, in six months this will all be back to normal. It was like this when Owe-bama first got elected, it will be like this again. The anti gun crowd won't quit regardless of whether they succeed with their latest ploy to grab guns or not.

 

[HappyCamper]

Sooooo OP....

How many IS enough rounds? I am very curious to know what you think is too much.

 

[diesel-man]

First, its not the preppers......they planned ahead and are sitting back with smug looks on their faces watching everyone else.

Second.....and no offense intended.....but it sounds like you didn't fall into the first group because if you had, you would have just pulled a box or two from your stash and not gotten all worked up about it.

There's a lesson here folks.....don't procrastinate on putting back things you think you're going to need.

I had a similar discussion with a friend that lives just outside of NYC.....she was whining that post Sandy no one was providing them with assistance.

I countered that while there are people who genuinely lost everything and need and DESERVE our help.....the vast majority of people with their hands out are the sheeple that bought a new iPhone 5 or Playstation instead of putting up 20 gals of fuel and a week of food/water.

Had they done so not only wouldn't they be a burden on emergency services but they would be able to help OTHERS.

NOW is the time you should be purchasing that generator you've toyed with purchasing, a couple cans of stabilized fuel, long term food. some water and a water purifier.

In 6 months when ammo is avail and prices hopefully aren't too crazy then put up a little something for a rainy day.

Use your heads folks and plan ahead whenever possible

That is just way too much common sense. Next you'll be telling us that Odumbo care isn't free...or the police are not there to protect us? Bahhh bahhh.....

 

[diesel-man]

As far as I am concerned it is not raining yet, unfortunately. I don't want to cut into any reserves just yet for teaching purposes. I can't afford to keep 1000's of rounds of 9mm around due to price, space limitations and practicality.
The current situation is just absurd and frustrating knowing that it is all kneejerk reactionism.

I do keep a week's worth of everything aside from whatever the family normally has around anyway. I'm not a prepper or doomsdayer by any standards but I do fit the boyscout motto for the most part. I'd actually be ready for the hurricane.

I'm just worked up because all this craziness makes gun owners look bad, particularly the conspiracy/revolution nuts,

A week's worth...I think that you are a "closet" prepper....

I think that it is a waste to carry around a full tank of gas....all of that weight making your gas mileage lower... carrying around $50 of fuel that could be better spent on cigarettes and beer....

Two pairs of work clothes...one to wear and one in the wash... We gotta conserve our resources people!!!!