A question about ARs and the AWB

[Boom Boom]

So anybody in possession of a stripped lower when the ban went into effect could do anything they wanted with it, within the constraints of the NFA?

A stripped lower registered pre-ban was exempt, so, yes, you could build the rifle as desired within NFA constraints.

How did the shift in supply/demand affect prices on things like flash suppressors? I'm assuming there were fewer people purchasing & wondering how manufacturers reacted.

Prices on flash suppressors remained stable, partly because demand went way down. It was prices on pre-ban rifles (and any pre-ban stripped lowers) that shot straight up. People suddenly wanted the forbidden fruit and demand far exceeded supply.

 

[Hog Sniper]

THe spooky thing is if they re-classify assault weapons like they did with the Street Sweeper SHotgun..... Dont know how ATF could handle the work load but what a pain it would be..

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/le...ult-style-semi-automatic-weapons-2-print.html

 

[sailskidrive]

When the first ban went into place ARs were no where near as popular as they are now. I vaguely remember everyone trying to get their hands on pre-ban AKs and MAK 90s...

Honestly, I think this administration is befuddled on how to even approach the mass shootings issue, let alone gun control.

 

[Dan44]

Oh, you know there is a working group of White House and anti's lawyers are working on it this weekend.

 

[sailskidrive]

Actually, it's probably a lobby group; they write a lot of legislation and pass it along to their Congressman or Senator who in turn modify it and bring it to the floor/committee...

 

[dev]

This thread is very informative. I don't want any such bans but if there is going to be one I hope gun advocacy groups question the efficacy and dangers of these psychiatric drugs as a real solution to these shootings as a major part of the new legislation.
Lets have that discussion and watch the pieces of the chess board change so the pro guns are not portrayed as being unsympathetic. Suddenly the legislation will embarrassingly be stopped dead in it's tracks when big pharma lobbyists stop writing checks.

 

[hvymax]

I think we will have to see what the next law specifically bans.

By then the prices will have skyrocketed far beyond what they are now.

 

[04RWon]

An all out ban as the "proposed list" would cause so many companies and shops to go out of buisness. Unemployment would go even higher...

 

[gmhowell]

Didn't the Clinton era HIPAA Act actually make it harder for that info to be used in that manner? They would have to address privacy concerns first I believe.

That's not even worth mentioning. As part of a 4473 or similar form, you will 'voluntarily' give up your right to health privacy. Every doctor's office you go into has you waive a portion of your rights, allowing one doctor to talk to another for your health care. Any new legislation (esp. at the federal level) will allow you to sign away your HIPAA rights in a heartbeat.

Trust me, it's easy to sign away your rights.

 

[bkuether]

I am going to go out on a limb here and make a prediction. My guess, is they will levy a huge tax on some type of guns. Are they taking them away? Nope. Are they prohibiting you from owning them? Nope. Are they prohibiting you from buying one? Nope. But you won't be able to eat or put gas in the car if you want to keep one or ten. I know someone is going to say, "that's impeding 2A". I would respond with, "since when does Ocrakahead ever given a damn about the constitution?" You don't think they knew exactly what was going to happen with Okrakacare?

Libtards are learning that the best way to hurt conservatives and freedom loving people is through their pocketbook... It controls people without technically violating rights,....(I know we can argue that ....) If I had to pony up $250 a month to keep my AR, what do you think my wife would say? Its gotta go. You know, "for the kids sake". How do you argue?

 

[smokey]

This entire thread is beyond assinine to me. If you're worried about an AWB, don't go out and stock up on black guns and parts, driving up costs and overpaying out the ass like everyone did after the 08 election...just friggin become more politically active, donate to MSI, SAF, NRA-ILA, and prevent them from being banned in the first place. Why freak and blow money in the short term on overpriced things in AWB hyped panic buying, when you could just keep it from happening?

We've got a pretty pro-gun congress. It's unlikely a repeat of the AWB will make its way to obama's desk. If anything pops up, we need our community to grow a pair and make enough noise to keep it from gaining any traction.

 

[Lou45]

I doubt there will be another ban.

My guess is that there will be some kind of federated system for verifying a mental health check added to the process of purchasing a firearm. State mental hospitals and the psych professions will report those certified as mentally ill to some central database that the BATF administers.

The NRA may even end up supporting it. Lets face it a hand full of whack jobs storming movie theaters and schools are putting unwarranted pressure on the rest of us and giving the lib-tards an excuse to push through anti-gun legislation.

This ^^^

Ssd is on point here. After some of the fact-finding regarding the Newtown incident, the ******* that committed the horendous crime was a mental "basket case", and most (just might be all) other similar recent incidents were committed by like type. If the "gun control crowd" amasses their realistic, and I reiterate "realistic" portions of gray matter and apply that to the real matter at hand, Ssd's quoted post above would most likely be the result. Bear in mind, I'm giving advanced credit to the anti 2A's with this posting as their previous history on 2A issues is not worthy of credit.

When the first ban went into place ARs were no where near as popular as they are now. I vaguely remember everyone trying to get their hands on pre-ban AKs and MAK 90s...

Honestly, I think this administration is befuddled on how to even approach the mass shootings issue, let alone gun control.

My thoughts exactly. See my first response above. ^^^

THe spooky thing is if they re-classify assault weapons like they did with the Street Sweeper SHotgun..... Dont know how ATF could handle the work load but what a pain it would be..

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/le...ult-style-semi-automatic-weapons-2-print.html

It's worth a thought but don't say that too loudly as we don't want to give them any ideas.

This entire thread is beyond assinine to me. If you're worried about an AWB, don't go out and stock up on black guns and parts, driving up costs and overpaying out the ass like everyone did after the 08 election...just friggin become more politically active, donate to MSI, SAF, NRA-ILA, and prevent them from being banned in the first place. Why freak and blow money in the short term on overpriced things in AWB hyped panic buying, when you could just keep it from happening?

We've got a pretty pro-gun congress. It's unlikely a repeat of the AWB will make its way to obama's desk. If anything pops up, we need our community to grow a pair and make enough noise to keep it from gaining any traction.

Amen to that.

Oh BTW, this is my 5,000th posting and a damned good one at that, if I don't say so myself.

 

[Jack Ryan]

During the last assault weapon ban:

-were sales of .223 and 7.56x32 ammo made ilegal?

-how about target practice with pre ban purchased ARs and Aks, was that made ilegal?

 

[aquaman]

This entire thread is beyond assinine to me. If you're worried about an AWB, don't go out and stock up on black guns and parts, driving up costs and overpaying out the ass like everyone did after the 08 election...just friggin become more politically active, donate to MSI, SAF, NRA-ILA, and prevent them from being banned in the first place. Why freak and blow money in the short term on overpriced things in AWB hyped panic buying, when you could just keep it from happening?

We've got a pretty pro-gun congress. It's unlikely a repeat of the AWB will make its way to obama's desk. If anything pops up, we need our community to grow a pair and make enough noise to keep it from gaining any traction.

This. People wont take the advice though, they will go out and blow 1200 on a f**kin dpms AR but wont send a dime to the NRA SAF etc. I wish we had more 2A activist with the tenacity of the Gays. They are less than 2% of the population but are very effective in pushing their issues. We have 80+ million guns owners and only 4 million bother to pay 30 dollars a year for their rights.

 

[04RWon]

This. People wont take the advice though, they will go out and blow 1200 on a f**kin dpms AR but wont send a dime to the NRA SAF etc. I wish we had more 2A activist with the tenacity of the Gays. They are less than 2% of the population but are very effective in pushing their issues. We have 80+ million guns owners and only 4 million bother to pay 30 dollars a year for their rights.

Liberals fight dirty, and arent nice. We try to be nice, fight clean, but it doesnt usually work. Look how long the fight to carry in Md has taken...plus its still not done. Besides, someone spending 1200 for their dpms gives them more instant satisfaction.

 

[Tbone1234]

You know, we have a mostly pro gun congress that may slow down or stop AWB. But, what concerns me the most is the Pesident's proclivity to use executive orders to get what he wants contrary to what congress or us citizens want. That's what we should be concerned about.

 

[OnTarget]

An all out ban as the "proposed list" would cause so many companies and shops to go out of buisness. Unemployment would go even higher...

 

[Hit and Run]

After watching the President's talk tonight at the Newtown multi-denominational ceremony, I believe a full scale assault on the 2cd Amendment is coming. Besides that, it was a beautiful ceremony that I wish was never needed.

I believe now, gun owners will be demonized by a complicit media. So to counter, here is what I will always believe as a lover and researcher of history. The 2cd Amendment is about ensuring freedom from a tyrannical government nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with hunting which is often cited by the constitutionally ignorant. Reading any history from the development of the Constitution, especially transcripts of State ratification conventions leaves no doubt why we have a 2cd Amendment.

It is no accident that “gun free” zones have become “killing zones” in these massacres. I’d start by taking those signs down and keep the nut jobs guessing. The ATF estimates that there are roughly 280,000,000 guns in private ownership in the United States, yet per the FBI, more people get killed in aggressive attacks each year by baseball bats than guns. It is the person not the method we need to deal with.

What happened in Connecticut was horrific. I can’t think of a more heinous crime or a more tragic event. We all got emotional as the news came in. But, assaulting the 2cd Amendment didn’t work. I say didn’t because significant aspects of the former Federal Assault weapon Ban are still in place in Connecticut. Still, a deranged person who obviously should not have been allowed anywhere near weapons of any kind gained access them and entered a school that was a “gun free” zone and did the unthinkable in a state with restrictive gun laws. Some will say the gun laws were not restrictive enough, I’d say mental health laws were not restrictive enough. In any case the fight for the rights guaranteed by the 2cd Amendment is underway.

 

[quad]

If they would happen to get the ban through, curious if an HBAR would be banned also? I understand it's an "assault weapon" as they call them, but it's not regulated. Being non regulated, it's more less considered a standard long rifle.

 

[Makarov Kid]

Stock up on gun receivers. Those you could legally modify into a "assault weapon". However, newly made ones, it would be illegal.