Buy your assault weapons now

[Lawyer56]

Schwabe, great timing!

 

[Indiana Jones]

I would definitely want to be holding onto actual "ban config" rifles (and not stripped lowers) if I thought a new AWB was coming down the pipe.

Don't care. I have enough parts to assemble several ban config rifles. Cosmetic "evil" parts are a lot easier to get than the registered firearm itself. If the touch the AR platform at all, trust me they will look into the "build loophole" I've heard antis talk about. Makes no sense at all. But when do they ever...

 

[HappyCamper]

Y'all can call it panic buying, over-reacting and assorted tinfoil labels.

I think a lot of the current thinking here on a new "assault weapons ban" is too closely associating it with the prior one. Consider the old one a starting point. They are not going to make the same mistake twice and allow for the previous sillyness.

My .02 is that any new assault weapons ban will be written to be much more comprehensive, permanent and much, much harder to be revoked - as O has already stated. It won't be law, it will probably be regulations. It will not only define what limitations there will be to future purchases, but it will also incorporate a registration of existing articles similar to NFA.

Think more like:

-All new purchases are like Aussieland(pussies)/Britain(pussies)/Canada(cold pussies) whatever.
-All existing things you can keep, but to be legal you must register and you have 1 year, or some irrelevant timeframe.

Now, you didn't register, you are a felon/terrorist.
If you did register, you are on THE list.

Happy Hump Day.

Boobies.

 

[RustyGunner]

Not to mention driving is just a privilege, not a right.

Driving is a right (see Article 9), driving on public roads is a privilege.

 

[Schwabe]

Schwabe, great timing!

Wow and it was already delivered last night.......

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[RustyGunner]

Y'all can call it panic buying, over-reacting and assorted tinfoil labels.

I think a lot of the current thinking here on a new "assault weapons ban" is too closely associating it with the prior one. Consider the old one a starting point. They are not going to make the same mistake twice and allow for the previous sillyness.

My .02 is that any new assault weapons ban will be written to be much more comprehensive, permanent and much, much harder to be revoked - as O has already stated. It won't be law, it will probably be regulations. It will not only define what limitations there will be to future purchases, but it will also incorporate a registration of existing articles similar to NFA.

Think more like:

-All new purchases are like Aussieland(pussies)/Britain(pussies)/Canada(cold pussies) whatever.
-All existing things you can keep, but to be legal you must register and you have 1 year, or some irrelevant timeframe.

Now, you didn't register, you are a felon/terrorist.
If you did register, you are on THE list.

Regulation has to have statutory structure to support it, they can't simply do whatever they please. Cases of regulatory overreach are generally the result of overbroad or badly-crafted law. Presidential Executive Orders only apply to employees of the Executive branch.

Registration schemes at the federal level are specifically outlawed by the FOPA.

Given the nature of ATF senior management these last few decades, I suspect they've done about all they can do without congress handing them more to work with.

 

[Inigoes]

Okay,

I broke down and bought an 18 inch upper with flip up sights and bayonet lug

I feel much better now

 

[BlackBart]

Agreed. Maybe SKSs? Less paperwork. Cheaper ammo.

Yup, buy one from private party............ no paperwork.

 

[ridethemessiah]

who is going to start an AKM group buy!!! its been awhile since we've had one of those

+1

 

[krucam]

Okay,

I broke down and bought an 18 inch upper with flip up sights and bayonet lug

I feel much better now

That's about as statistically significant as me getting 2 extra rounds in my case of ammo...meh...

 

[Inigoes]

That's about as statistically significant as me getting 2 extra rounds in my case of ammo...meh...

You might like this build

 

[Ooops]

I think I'll be buying stock in ammo companies here shortly.

 

[4MDGunRights]

Don't under estimate what can be done with presidential decrees and by changing the balance in the Supreme Court. If re-elected, look for bad times for gun owners for a long long time.

 

[Sirex]

My more immediate concern would be what they would do with the "assault" rifles currently out there. I slightly recall what happened in the 90s with the first AWB, but that affected just buying new ones. And in the government's terms, what defines "assault rifle" or "assault weapons"? I assume this would be a very vague all encompassing scope.

 

[RustyGunner]

My more immediate concern would be what they would do with the "assault" rifles currently out there. I slightly recall what happened in the 90s with the first AWB, but that affected just buying new ones. And in the government's terms, what defines "assault rifle" or "assault weapons"? I assume this would be a very vague all encompassing scope.

The "all-encompassing" part is what the court found objectionable in Heller, that it was a blanket ban on a category of firearms in common use. I think the point can and would be made that with "Assault Weapons" driving long-gun sales for Lo, these many years, that the category is protected (not to mention what Miller had to say about weapons suitable for militia use).

What I think we're seeing is tactical theater, where given the likely makeup of the next congress it is safe to appease the base by talking about gun bans in the comforting knowledge that the eeeevul Republicans will never allow them to commit political seppuku by actually passing one.

 

[Haides]

Is there any danger of a ban coming through an executive order (not really sure how they work)? We all know how much Obama loves those...

 

[midcountyg]

Y'all can call it panic buying, over-reacting and assorted tinfoil labels.

I think a lot of the current thinking here on a new "assault weapons ban" is too closely associating it with the prior one. Consider the old one a starting point. They are not going to make the same mistake twice and allow for the previous sillyness.

My .02 is that any new assault weapons ban will be written to be much more comprehensive, permanent and much, much harder to be revoked - as O has already stated. It won't be law, it will probably be regulations. It will not only define what limitations there will be to future purchases, but it will also incorporate a registration of existing articles similar to NFA.

Think more like:

-All new purchases are like Aussieland(pussies)/Britain(pussies)/Canada(cold pussies) whatever.
-All existing things you can keep, but to be legal you must register and you have 1 year, or some irrelevant timeframe.

Now, you didn't register, you are a felon/terrorist.
If you did register, you are on THE list.

Happy Hump Day.

Boobies.

I think you are very correct here. Zippy said four years ago, that if he was able to put a AWB in effect it would not have all the loop holes the last one had. I don't think there will be post ban configured ARs, AKs, and others. I think he will go right to banning all semi autos. If they classify the so called assault weapons as NFA regulated, it forces owners to register or be charged with felony charges. I could see him trying to do this through regulations, and trying to bypass congress as he has done with many other things.

 

[vector03]

If they classify the so called assault weapons as NFA regulated, it forces owners to register or be charged with felony charges. I could see him trying to do this through regulations, and trying to bypass congress as he has done with many other things.

I think you would see the American people take the gloves off at that point.

 

[midcountyg]

I think you would see the American people take the gloves off at that point.

We as a people are taking far more crap from our government now than what it took to start the Revolutionary war or the Civil war. Still everyone remains sheople. I don't know if enough people really would put their feet down. I am sure we will find out in time if zippy gets in again.

 

[erwos]

Is there any danger of a ban coming through an executive order (not really sure how they work)? We all know how much Obama loves those...

The crowd that promotes "the president will regulate an AWB into existence" seems really vague and unclear on exactly how this would go down. The executive branch only controls enforcement of laws, and it is unclear to me from what law the ATF would suddenly derive authority to regulate hi-cap mags, semi-autos, etc. out of existence. They could probably crack down on imports via 922, but they could have done that already...

There's also the inconvenient fact that this would massively alienate him from even his allies in the House and Senate. The members of these institutions do not like seeing other branches take powers that they think are rightfully theirs, regardless of how those powers are used. If he did what some people claim he could do, his entire agenda would be in jeopardy.

That is not even mentioning that this would be something like unilateral political suicide for the Democratic party. Not only would the AWB hurt them in elections, the obvious and flagarant abuse of executive powers by "their guy" would haunt them for a long, long time during presidential elections. BHO does not hate guns more than he loves the Democratic party. No way.

All in all, it seems like the sort of baseless FUD that would be spread by a Republican party operative, or maybe the gun industry. There are perfectly good reasons to worry about the president's record on guns; fear of a magic executive-imposed AWB is not one of them.