RemArms M700

[turbo86]

I just got a beautiful walnut stock for a short action Remington 700. Does anyone have any experience with the new M700? I'm thinking a varmint in .308win

 

[turbo86]

Wow! Over 100 views and no one has held, run the bolt or purchased a new Remington 700? This does not bode well for RemArms.

I'm going to see if I can find one and I'll report back.

 

[4g64loser]

Just my opinion, but having owned 9 700s, all some level of custom (and cutting it down to just one), I wouldn't even bother handling one made after the mid seventies.

By the time you are done with all the work to make the 700 worth a crap, you can.buy a ready to go 700 footprint action. The prices have come way down.

 

[ironpony]

So you want to put new purchase internals into your current walnut stock? Sorry, I ain't too inteligent.

 

[turbo86]

By the time you are done with all the work to make the 700 worth a crap, you can.buy a ready to go 700 footprint action. The prices have come way down.

I might still go that route. I had a RR serial number ( last batch through the Ilion plant) M700 that I had some work done to and it came out to about what a low end custom action would have cost.

 

[turbo86]

So you want to put new purchase internals into your current walnut stock? Sorry, I ain't too inteligent.

That was the plan.

 

[4g64loser]

I might still go that route. I had a RR serial number ( last batch through the Ilion plant) M700 that I had some work done to and it came out to about what a low end custom action would have cost.

C to MAYBE a D serial prefix is the cutoff to.where I won't even work on them. Rough as a cob.

I am a big fan of zermatt and ARC actions. That said, I built a 6.5 creedmoor on a Stiller tac30 for a buddy almost a decade ago and it's been nothing but perfect. I like the zermatt and ARC stuff because people can order shouldered prefits for them and street prices for the actions are under a grand on their lower models.

You can spend 2k on an action or (these days) you can spend 800 to 1000. The features/quality/price point calculus keeps moving in favor of the customer every year as more companies enter the market and try to compete.

 

[turbo86]

I am a big fan of zermatt and ARC actions.

I'm familiar with the Zermat. I'll look into the ARC.

 

[4g64loser]

I'm familiar with the Zermat. I'll look into the ARC.

I own both.

The new CDG from Ted at ARC I don't own yet but I got to play with one pre-release and a shooting buddy has one of the first run. I sort of like it, sort of don't. Undeniably smooth. I think it needs time to grow on me. I love my Nuke. Tried an Archi once, but not enough to really decide if I liked the pivoting bolt. I think if I bought a CDG right now, I'd get pivoting but it would be something I would put thought into.

 

[Qbeam]

I've got a .223 700, and the action is gritty compared to a Howa and Savage in .308. Still MOA accurate, just gritty bolt closing and opening.

The 700 will be a project gun down the road.

Q

 

[ironpony]

Off topic but i'm in possession of a 700 in 338 winmag I need to check the ser # on!!

 

[E.Shell]

In my experience, the Remington 700 series hunting rifles have really declined in quality. I had a fairly recent .308 Varmint that shot 2 MOA groups with FGMM 168s. I rebarreled it and it was much better.

The tactical series (5R, PSS, PS & LTR) generally shoot very well and my LTR will stack the same FGMM 168s into 1/2 MOA or less. The drawback with these is the initial cost and that the finish is matte black, except the 5R which is matte stainless and you may not want either of these with a nice walnut stock. The factory stocks are HS Precision and can be resold for a decent price.

If you want 'hunting accuracy', any one of the barrel makers will rebarrel your action without dumping a lot of money into it, but then you have to get it finished.

If you are looking for a true precision rifle, I'd suggest following the advice above and going to a custom action on an M700 form. The basic M700 action needs a few hundred dollars worth of precision gunsmithing to true up, so you can spend almost as much as just getting the custom action to begin with. If you do customize an M700, in the end you still only have a Remington action and will never recoup the gunsmithing costs.

 

[turbo86]

In my experience, the Remington 700 series hunting rifles have really declined in quality. I had a fairly recent .308 Varmint that shot 2 MOA groups with FGMM 168s. I rebarreled it and it was much better.

My RR M700 in .243 shot 2-2.5 moa on a good day. It also had problems with extraction. I had the bolt worked on to fix the extraction and rebarreled it. I haven't shot it with the new barrel yet but it has to be better than the piece of steel pipe that was on it. The bolt work made it smooth as silk and it really throws the brass. It cost $320.00 so I still have less into it than a Zermat Origin.

If you do customize an M700, in the end you still only have a Remington action and will never recoup the gunsmithing costs.

True

 

[Sirex]

I have a Remington 700 varmint in .308 and the action is very gritty as well. I wasn't super impressed, but hey, I wanted a Remington. I may eventually do some work on it to get it smoother out and tuned, who knows.

 

[Rockzilla]

Nope no new ones. Haven't shot any but the actions are like, "parts bin parts, thrown together for the lack of better words, mostly all the rifles / actions laying around here are older ones short actions, 223 / 308 bolt face. a few long action rifles, they are "smooth", I'll just say this the 788 in 223 is smother than the new 700 actions, go figure ( just an observation ) one day I may shoot the Dick Poole *sp* rifle he built decades ago, Remington short action, 308, Hart SS 24" heavy barrel, and I believe a old McMillan stock, never shot it...one day.

-Rock

 

[turbo86]

I went to the Frederick gun show today. There was only one M700 and it was a RR serial number Ilion factory built gun. The action wasn't bad and like all of the later, especially RR serial numbered guns, the bolt handles are put on wrong so primary extraction could be a problem. The guy who owned it wanted stupid money for it and got pissed when I asked if that was his real price. He knocked $100. off but it was still, in my opinion, stupid money.

Then I went to both Hafers Gunshops and they had a few M700 ADL's. All the barrel stamps are Ilion, NY. One of the sales guys believes these are left overs from the buyout and I think he's right. The new serial number are prefix RAR or Rem Arms. Only one out of the 7 or so I handled had a halfway decent action. All had differing degrees of grit and a couple were pretty loose. So... looks like it's an Origin or other custom action build for my beautiful walnut stock.