Pistol to SBR Form 1

[outrider58]

This.

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/factoring-criteria-firearms-attached-stabilizing-braces

https://www.atf.gov/file/154866/download

Question: Does the score of 3 in section II get added on to the total score of section III? Or is the total score in section III the only determining factor overall?

 

[atblis]

It’s not that big of a deal to do your own fingerprints. Order the cards off Amazon. Lot’s of people do their own.

 

[Darkemp]

Question: Does the score of 3 in section II get added on to the total score of section III? Or is the total score in section III the only determining factor overall?

Sum of II and III. I don’t see a way to keep it below 4 really.

 

[camo556]

see here for what is happening in august:

 

[outrider58]

Sum of II and III. I don’t see a way to keep it below 4 really.

If it weren't for Merryland's ******** SBR rule, I'd have no need for an "assault pistol". C'mon retirement!

#fckmaryland

 

[calicojack]

Will Silencer Shop send your already scanned fingerprints if you've used them before? I've been putting off submitting a Form 1 because I haven't had time to do fingerprints.

Yes - they keep them on file until you tell them.

 

[calicojack]

It’s not that big of a deal to do your own fingerprints. Order the cards off Amazon. Lot’s of people do their own.

It's also easy to go to a local LEO for fingerprints. If you do roll your own, see if you can get a friend to help. Rolling your own fingerprints is a PITA to get it right.

 

[atblis]

If you use the correct card, the ATF ain’t all that picky about what the prints look like. Most rejected prints seem to be due to being on the wrong print cards.

 

[rouchna]

You can order fingerprint cards from the ATF for free. That’s what I did. I also did my own fingerprints at home.

You can order them here: https://www.atf.gov/distribution-center-order-form

 

[calicojack]

Also saw DIY fingerprint kits now on Amazon, are those kosher as well? It’s been a long time since I did a physical card (20yrs or so), thought there was some certification that had to be filled out on cards but I could be wrong?

Yes. I bought one and used it for my last SBR. It is kind of hard to roll the prints by yourself so if you can get someone to assist it will save you some time. I think it took me like 4 tries before I got a good set of prints.

 

[Collector98]

I see your location says Glen Burnie. I'm also in Glen Burnie and have the fingerprint cards and ink. PM me and you can stop by to do them for free if you'd like.

 

[hammer67]

There are too many moving parts and it's too early in my opinion.

there are 2 or 3 Supreme Court opinions which will be handed out by June which will affect whether the ATF can actually go through with this.

we will probably get some kind of guidance on Maryland's assault weapons ban which probably will get thrown out so the 29 and a 1/2 inch requirement will no longer apply.

You have to figure out your points to see what you have is actually illegal once the rule comes out.

At which point you can take the brace off and decide what to do.

I don't see upside to pre-emptively filing a form one for rules that may not ever go into effect.

What SCOTUS cases are you referring to? I know NYSRPA vs Bruen may help with CCW in MD, but has nothing to do with ATF.

GOA vs Garland is one that could help us, but I don't believe it has been taken up yet? Bianchi vs Frosh also has yet to be taken up. So I don't think either of these would be out in June.

 

[sundaeman]

So if no brace just a straight tube is /will/ may be ok?

pre-brace AR pistols

Nothing here resembles a stock

 

[teratos]

pre-brace AR pistols

Nothing here resembles a stock

God I hate those even more than pistol braces

 

[RRomig]

pre-brace AR pistols

Nothing here resembles a stock

The years they were the only option I had zero desire to own one. Then came the brace and still I had zero desire to own one. Then ATF said you can shoulder the brace and I got on board. At that time I said this make the SBR NFA deal kinda ridiculous. And look at us now. I’m not doing anything until the ink is dry.