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  • aznboi87

    Active Member
    Aug 29, 2023
    145
    rockville, md
    I thought back in the old days during revolution war, minuteman "militia" were consist of regular civilians who would sign up, bring their muskets and fight the war alongside with regular army.
    nowadays, Maryland's Militia is only legal under the Maryland Defence Force, however they are still abide to Army's regulation, physical requirements, and regular trainings. They are pretty much no different than Army Reserves. So what the hell is the point of Maryland Defence Force Unit which is pretty much 100% like Army reserves? To join them you have to pass the Army fitness test.
    so pretty much, the US Government say im too fat to defend the country if Russia attacks
     

    TheBert

    The Member
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 10, 2013
    7,733
    Gaithersburg, Maryland
    The physical standards are there to ensure that they don't have to have multiple duce and a half's picking up the old fat and slow stragglers on the way into battle. Kind of like having to take care of a wounded guy who never got into the fight and never got wounded.
     

    BurtonRW

    Active Member
    Oct 19, 2007
    998
    Pasadena
    I declined to join. I forget when, but it was sometime post-Woolard, when the CO made it clear (in legislative testimony, IIRC, but it has been a long time) that he was basically anti-RKBA. It was clear that he didn’t intend for them to have any role other than directing traffic and handing out emergency supplies should the SHTF. I had a friend in at the time. Pretty sure he resigned shortly after that as well.

    -Rob
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,304
    I thought back in the old days during revolution war, minuteman "militia" were consist of regular civilians who would sign up, bring their muskets and fight the war alongside with regular army.
    nowadays, Maryland's Militia is only legal under the Maryland Defence Force, however they are still abide to Army's regulation, physical requirements, and regular trainings. They are pretty much no different than Army Reserves. So what the hell is the point of Maryland Defence Force Unit which is pretty much 100% like Army reserves? To join them you have to pass the Army fitness test.
    so pretty much, the US Government say im too fat to defend the country if Russia attacks
    Not too fat; too conservative - you are too unlikely to follow unconstitutional orders of the kind likely to be issued by the Governor. Such as confiscating firearms from law abiding citizens!
     

    steves1911

    Ultimate Member
    Dec 2, 2011
    3,052
    On a hill in Wv
    My Father in Law is in the MD defense force. He is 62 with an artificial knee a bum shoulder and a bad back I don't think the PT standards are much. He joined maybe 5 yrs ago because he was bored being retired.
     

    aznboi87

    Active Member
    Aug 29, 2023
    145
    rockville, md
    My Father in Law is in the MD defense force. He is 62 with an artificial knee a bum shoulder and a bad back I don't think the PT standards are much. He joined maybe 5 yrs ago because he was bored being retired.
    Their requirements is 10% above army’s pft minimum requirements.

    Your father in law must be still more in shape as a 57 year than I am.
     

    K31

    "Part of that Ultra MAGA Crowd"
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 15, 2006
    35,678
    AA county
    If you join you must be an insumerectionist. I mean, it's right there in the second amendment that the purpose of the militia is to defend against a tyrannical government.
     

    Jerry M

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 13, 2007
    1,691
    Glen Burnie MD
    They were at Maryland Emergency Management Agency during one of the more severe hurricanes. Strictly in a clerical function. My understanding is that do not handle weapons in their duties.
     

    Ellis Gordon

    gordoninmontgomerycounty
    Jan 25, 2016
    77
    Bethesda, MD
    I think the militia was called out in 1942 as coast watchers. Natural disasters I'm not sure.
    WASHINGTON POST

    Maryland Minute Men of 1942: Armed citizens summoned to homeland defense


    By David Kopel By David Kopel

    The Volokh Conspiracy


    Opinion

    Opinion A column or article in the Opinions section (in print, this is known as the Editorial Pages).

    December 7, 2015

    Especially this year, Pearl Harbor Day reminds us that when the world is at war, the United States homeland is not immune. Two weeks after Pearl Harbor, nine Japanese submarines were patrolling the U.S. West Coast, sinking merchant ships. In February, the submarine force shelled an oil refinery near Santa Barbara. In June, the Japanese army captured the Aleutian Islands Attu and Kiska — highly strategic bases for either side to bomb the other’s home territory. In January, Nazi submarines off the East Coast launched Operation Paukenschlag (Drum Roll), sinking many American merchant vessels.

    Submarines can also be used to land commandos or spies. The Germans landed one such force near New York City. It was composed of former Americans, of German ancestry, who had left America to live in Germany, based on Hitler’s promise of jobs and housing for everyone. Because of the ex-Americans’ English skills and knowledge of America, the Nazis forced them to participate in the mission. They were caught only because two of the eight men immediately turned themselves in to the FBI. FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover falsely told the public that the FBI had caught the infiltrators, although the FBI had really had no idea that they existed until the infiltrators went to the FBI. The summary military trial and execution of some of these Germans is the subject of the Supreme Court case Ex Parte Quirin, 317 U.S. 1 (1942).

    With the Army and the National Guard busy overseas, homeland defense was the responsibility of the rest of the American public. On March 10, 1942, Maryland’s Democratic governor, Herbert O’Conor, called forth the militia of Maryland. In a radio address to the People of the State, O’Conor called for the creation of the Maryland Minute Men. They would provide “local protection against parachute troops, saboteurs, or organized raiding parties” — attacks that might be assisted by “by enemy sympathizers within our State.” (The full text of the speech is reproduced at the end of this post.)

    The U.S. military did not have arms or ammunition to spare. “Hence, the volunteers, for the most part, will be expected to furnish their own weapons. For this reason, gunners (of whom there are 60, 000 licensed in Maryland), members of Rod and Gun Clubs, of Trap Shooting and similar organizations, will be expected to constitute a part of this new military organization.”

    “The Maryland Minute Men, armed with weapons with which they are thoroughly familiar from long use, operating in a community in which they are accustomed to every road and trail and stream, and aroused to fighting pitch by the knowledge that they are serving to protect their own homes, their family and all that they hold dear in life, will prove a staunch defense against any enemy activity.”

    There was a lot of segregation in Maryland in 1942, but there should be none in the Maryland Minute Men, O’Conor said: “I should also point out another cardinal rule of the new organization. We all know that an enemy raiding party does not stop to give considerations to a victim’s social background, or to his political affiliation, or to class distinction. Therefore, I give assurance that such considerations will completely absent from the organization, training and discipline of the Maryland Minute Men from top to bottom.” Despite this good intention, a January 1943 article in the newspaper The Afro American detailed discrimination against black volunteers, including their being given much less arms training and being told not to carry their rifles except when called out.

    A new war is never like the previous ones, and today’s enemies differ in capabilities and in ideologies from the 1942 enemies. For many centuries, a distinctive feature of the United States has been a well-armed citizen population. Today, as in 1942, the United States has a distributed defense capability that few other nations enjoy; it is not enough by itself to win a global war, but it does provide significant additional protection to the homeland for as long as the war continues. As the United States and the rest of the civilized world again confront totalitarian evil, the sensible and realistic strategies will take advantage of the distributed defense system that is recognized and protected by the Second Amendment and that remains “necessary to the security of a free State.”

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    Archives of Maryland Online, Volume 409, Page 616
    State Papers and Addresses of Governor Herbert L. O’Conor
    MARYLAND MINUTE MEN
    RADIO STATION WFBR AND MARYLAND COVERAGE NETWORK
    March 10, 1942
    Baltimore

    THE sincere hope of every person in Maryland is that our State may never experience invasion or attack. That we should consider such a thing as possible is in itself a terrible shock to the American state of mind. Nevertheless, with so much of the world overrun by the enemies of Democracy, and with the invasion of Java and New Guinea as well as other points in the Australian Archipelago fresh in our minds, we would be foolish, indeed, not to be prepared, as completely as possible, for any such happening, even here in Maryland.

    Our people didn’t want this war and, prior to the dastardly and cowardly attack on Pearl Harbor, the thought of sending American troops to fight in far-away lands was abhorrent to the minds of every American. Recent developments of the most threatening nature, however, have completely changed America’s attitude toward the present conflict. The unexpected and continuing success of the Japanese forces, who have swept everything before them except General MacArthur’s heroic band in the Philippines, have impressed on our minds most forcibly that new tactics are demanded.

    That is why, in the recent past, there has become evident a tremendous demand on the part of Americans everywhere, that our leaders forsake a defensive policy and pursue this war in typical American fashion by carrying the offensive to the enemy at every possible point.

    But this plan, if adopted, will make necessary additional protective forces in the states of our Country, particularly those like Maryland, situated along the coastlines. It is about this matter of necessity that I desire to speak to the people of Maryland tonight.

    Let us review briefly the various steps, and then consider why and to what extent Maryland confronted with danger and what we must do at once to protect our citizens. The Federal Government faces the tremendous task of training the largest military and naval establishment in our Nation’s history. After the hundreds of thousands, and even millions, of our men are trained and equipped, they must be transported, far and wide, over the seven seas to overcome the enemy outside continental United States. Every available man in the combat forces will be needed in this far-flung offensive. This means that if any number of soldiers, trained for military operations, would be retained within the United States for guard duty, or for any other routine defense purpose, that would entail a loss to our Country’s striking power.

    The Federal Government, of course, is the one which assumes the responsibility for the conduct of war. But the State Government has its obligation, also, to its citizens. That obligation includes protection to our people. It was for this reason that more than a year ago I asked the Maryland General Assembly to authorize the creation of the State Guard, the primary purpose of which was to have a mobile protective force ready to move in any direction to maintain the safety and security of our people and their property. It is with pleasure that I can report to our people that the State Guard is completely drilling.

    The State Guard numbers approximately 2,700 officers and men. Supplementing it is a Special Military Police Force, the members of which are on continuous duty and assigned exclusively to the guarding of our State’s bridges, important water supplies, and other vital points, described by the War Department as having important bearing on the war effort. The number of this force is approximately 300.

    To the credit of the members of our present Guard, it can be said that they have responded to every requirement since our Nation entered the war, despite unexpected difficulties under which they have at times been required to perform their duties. The public will understand that up until now the State’s defensive efforts have consisted mainly in protecting those installations and locations which the War Department consider as vitally important.

    Now, however, a greater possible danger must be faced by our people. Situated as we are and exposed as our State is, we must be prepared for the worst. Since the outbreak of hostilities at Pearl Harbor, I have been in touch, at regular intervals, with United States officials who have imparted information revealing the danger that besets us. I owe it to the people of the State to report that we are in jeopardy, and that we must be prepared for trouble both from without and from within our State.

    Only today, for instance, have I been advised by the Commanding General of the First Army, in New York, that the presence and increasing activity of enemy submarines off the Maryland Coast require additional drastic measures.

    With the prospect that the regular Army units will be engaged in more important operations elsewhere, and with our State Guard and Military Police assigned to particular functions, it is felt absolutely necessary to have an additional protective force-: as a home guard-for the protection of our various communities. Competent military officers, one of whom, our capable and experienced Major General Milton A. Reckord, will speak to you in a few minutes, advise that there is need of this further, wide-spread, alert defense organization to cope with and to be available instantly for any sudden attack by parachute troops, by forces landed from the sea by enemy sympathizers within our State.

    I propose to meet this need by the organization in every part of the State of a Reserve Militia. The completed plan has just been approved by General Reckord, as Commander of the Third Army Corps. It offers the opportunity for every able-bodied man to assist in protecting his home and his community against enemy activities. The militia will be organized under our State Law, and the men who enlist at this time of our grave emergency will be known as the “Maryland Minute Men.”

    The mission of the Maryland Minute Men is to furnish immediately, local protection against parachute troops, saboteurs, or organized raiding parties. It is planned that the units be confined to their own communities so that there will be assurance at all times that every residential section of Maryland will have protection.

    No prescribed complete uniform will be required. Distinctive arm bands and caps or other items may be furnished by the State, the County, or by the men themselves. For the present the hard-pressed Ordinance Department of the United States Army cannot be expected to furnish sufficient arms, ammunition, or equipment. Hence, the volunteers, for the most part, will be expected to furnish their own weapons. For this reason, gunners (of whom there are 60, 000 licensed in Maryland), members of Rod and Gun Clubs, of Trap Shooting and similar organizations, will be expected to constitute a part of this new military organization.

    Officers will be drawn from the immediate area in which they are to serve. As Army officers have pointed out to me, the familiarity of the members with their particular locality, with the terrain and road not in the respective communities, will be of great value in resisting any hostile efforts against residential areas and important public necessities.

    No intensive training program will be adopted. While sufficient preparatory work must be undertaken by the Minute Men, care will be taken to avoid unnecessary demands upon their time. No guard duty is to be included as a regular part of the program for the new force.

    Retired officers of the regular Army, Marine Corps or State Guard will be sought to supervise the training. The program will embrace basic field training and basic small arms instruction. The field training will include the study of terrain from the military viewpoint, establishment and maintenance of communications, practice assemblies in daylight and in dark, and other courses. Arms instructions will cover teaching how to load and unload weapons, examination of weapons as to working order; effective firing positions, special instructions in sighting and aiming, rapid firing technique, and other duties.

    Military officials, in emphasizing the value of such an organization point out that the familiarity which the members will enjoy with the faces, customs and habits of their neighbors in the community, makes them most valuable in combating sabotage efforts. They will detect, even more quickly than a secret service man from the outside, any strange faces in the community, or any unusual activities on the part of local inhabitants.

    The Maryland Minute Men, armed with weapons with which they are thoroughly familiar from long use, operating in a community in which they are accustomed to every road and trail and stream, and aroused to fighting pitch by the knowledge that they are serving to protect their own homes, their family and all that they hold dear in life, will prove a staunch defense against any enemy activity.

    Through conferences among the Military, Naval, State Guard and Minute Men officials, operation plans for each area will be carefully prepared, I am assured by the Third Corps Headquarters. Surveys will be made to determine the importance of facilities and installations which might be subjected to sabotage and raids; the availability of Military and Naval police and State Guard forces; and the quality and type of communications which are available for notification for additional protective forces when necessary.

    Based on these surveys, definite missions will be assigned each of the organizations concerned; and the proper liaison will be arranged. All available firearms will be reported and those individuals to be armed with rifles will be assigned to tasks where the long-range and accurate fire of rifles will be necessarily employed. Those to be armed with shot guns will be assigned tasks where the short range, spreading fire of shot guns will be most effective.

    As I attempted to outline before, no unnecessary discipline and training will be required. However, as this is serious business there will be exacted from all members obedience to orders, sobriety, and self-sacrifice. Military advisors suggest that time need not be spent on close-order or other military drill. It is not intended that this be a parade organization. But officers and men must be willing to cooperate and to devote time and work to meet any local situation.

    I should also point out another cardinal rule of the new organization. We all know that an enemy raiding party does not stop to give considerations to a victim’s social background, or to his political affiliation, or to class distinction. Therefore, I give assurance that such considerations will completely absent from the organization, training and discipline of the Maryland Minute Men from top to bottom.

    I now issue a call for volunteers to serve as Maryland Minute Men. Arrangements have been made to accept enlistments at once. State headquarters for the new organization will be the Office of the Adjutant General of Maryland, Fifth Regiment Armory, Baltimore.

    However, persons can make known their readiness to serve at any of the State Armories, one of which is located in all the counties of Maryland except five. In these five counties; where no armories exists, namely, Garrett, Howard, St. Mary’s, Calvert and Charles Counties, other headquarters will be established, the location of which will be made known through the local press.

    Already arrangements are made to receive group enlistments from the membership rolls of Rifle Clubs, Trap Shooting Associations, Skeet Clubs and sportsmen’s groups of every type. The number of units to be formed in different sections of the State will depend upon the size and population of the area and also upon the important public facilities and military objectives, which are designated by the War Department in different sections of our State.

    I wish to repeat that in every move, with respect to this organization, the advice and direction of Army officials will be sought, as has been the practice in connection with the organization and functioning of the Maryland State Guard.

    And so, my fellow-Marylanders, I ask your support and assistance in this new undertaking which will be maintained at a minimum of expense. It will however, represent a maximum of protection by civilian soldiers, whose first duty it will be to stand in defense of their home, in protection of plants and facilities which are essential to life.

    To these men, many of whom will be veterans of the last war, who incidentally may have “chafed at the bit” when they have observed their sons and younger men marching away recently to the Country’s defense, let me say that here is an opportunity that will make them truly an important part of the public defense forces. Here is a function of military organizations to which they can address themselves with enthusiasm, because it will be of utmost importance and will thereby release a number of regular Army forces for combat service abroad.

    Inconvenient, yes; overtime work, yes. But let us remember that hardships and privations are now being suffered for us by General MacArthur and his valiant men in Bataan. Those who do not leave United States as a part of the armed forces to avenge the wrong done to Americans and to the United States flag abroad, will be untrue to these American boys if we do not protect their homes and their communities while they are away fighting for us. Let us preserve the communities and their firesides, so that there will be a familiar place to which they will be welcomed on their return after victory has, been won.

    The flower of America’s young manhood now being sent to distant parts of the world will face the period of hardship and discouragement. But like the Crusaders of old, they are privileged to fare forth to free a land of civilization from the Barbarians.

    America’s Crusade today is to wipe the scourge of slavery from a world of Hitler and the Japanese war lords, and to establish once and for all time the freedom of man and his dignity as an individual, and this should awaken a responsive chord in every heart.

    No, we didn’t want this war. We went to all lengths to avoid it. And in so doing we laid ourselves open to just the very reverses that lack of preparedness has occasioned. Now that we are in this war, however, now that we know how necessary it is to fight as we have never fought before, not only to defend our Democracy, our own freedom, but to bring back freedom to all the enslaved people of the earth, we know America shall not fail. Maryland today, as in every other crisis in our Nation’s history, pledges itself to stop short of nothing to preserve American ideals and American privileges for generations to come.
     

    Ellis Gordon

    gordoninmontgomerycounty
    Jan 25, 2016
    77
    Bethesda, MD
    Maryland Code, Public Safety § 13-203

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    (a) There are two classes of State militia:

    (1) the organized militia;  and

    (2) the unorganized militia.

    (b) The organized militia of the State consists of:

    (1) the National Guard;

    (2) the Inactive National Guard;  and

    (3) the Maryland Defense Force.

    (c) The unorganized militia consists of those individuals described under § 13-202 of this subtitle but who are not regularly enlisted or commissioned in the organized militia.



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    (a) Except as provided in subsection (b) of this section, the militia consists of able-bodied individuals who are:

    (1) citizens of the State;

    (2) citizens of the United States who take an oath of allegiance to the State;  or

    (3) of foreign birth and who:

    (i) are residents of the State;  and

    (ii) have declared their intention to become citizens of the State.

    (b) Subject to subsection (c) of this section, an individual is exempt from subsection (a) of this section if the individual:

    (1) is exempted by the laws of the United States;

    (2) is exempted by the laws of the State;

    (3) is a member of a regularly organized fire or police department in a county, city, village, or town;

    (4) is a judge or clerk of a court of record;

    (5) is a register of wills and deeds;

    (6) is a sheriff;

    (7) is a member of the clergy;

    (8) is a practicing physician;

    (9) is a superintendent, officer, or assistant of a hospital or correctional facility;

    (10) has been judged mentally incompetent;

    (11) is addicted to narcotic drugs;  or

    (12) has been convicted of an infamous crime.

    (c) An individual exempted under subsection (b)(3) through (12) of this section shall be available for military duty in case of war, insurrection, or invasion, or when the danger of war, insurrection, or invasion is imminent.

    Maryland Code, Public Safety § 13-701

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    (a)(1) If the militia of the State is ordered under the Constitution and laws of the United States into the active military service of the United States, the Governor may order out for active duty the organized militia.

    (2) If the number of organized militia available is insufficient, the Governor may order out the unorganized militia.

    (b) Each member of the unorganized militia who volunteers or is ordered out is subject to court-martial under this title for failure to appear at the time and place designated by the member's commanding officer.
     

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