GunBroker Question

[Worsley]

I’m about to list these two Colt Rifles on GunBroker and my question is, once a listing sells, does the firearm have to be transferred from FFL to FFL or can I ship from seller to FFL?

Another question; since I am the original owner and neither have been fired and come with all factory accessories and boxes, would you list them as “Factory New”, “New Old Stock or”, “Used”?

Last question; let’s say I want to get no less then $1400 for each would you set it up as an “Auction” or “Buy now”

Thanks in advance.

 

[joppaj]

Not all FFL's will accept transfer from a private citizen. Check with the receiving FFL.

I would list them "Used" based on the options you gave. They've been owned, even if never fired.

 

[wpage]

Take a hard look around on Gun Broker. See what the competition is about.

Those are nice guns. I would list as new old stock.

 

[eruby]

Take a hard look around on Gun Broker. See what the competition is about.

Those are nice guns. I would list as new old stock.

+1 on 'new old stock'

 

[Worsley]

Take a hard look around on Gun Broker. See what the competition is about.

Those are nice guns. I would list as new old stock.

Thanks! Yes one is a 2013 Config M4A1 SOCOM with all the proper cage code marking (not the new ones that don’t come with markings on the upper).

And the other is a 2013 config Colt M4 HBPW with roll marked cage codes. I changed out the rear sight with an A2 carry handle and instead of the beefy hand guards I added the original Colt skinny handguards. Probably won’t include those at they are quite pricey. Thanks for the advice.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Screw all that, sell em to me, or one of us.

Oh yeah, I forget, did the bastards make it illegal to sell long guns privately without the BS FFL crap?

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

See my revisions.

But, I am thinking about AR's, I just don't know much about them. I only looked at yours for about 2 seconds b4 I posted my remark.

 

[Worsley]

Screw all that, sell em to me, or one of us.

Oh yeah, I forget, did the bastards make it illegal to sell long guns privately without the BS FFL crap?

I am pretty sure a sale in MD has to go through a FFL.

 

[Worsley]

See my revisions.

But, I am thinking about AR's, I just don't know much about them. I only looked at yours for about 2 seconds b4 I posted my remark.

No worries. I had them in the classifieds but no one seemed interested. So I closed the add(s) and trying GB instead.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

My disgust grows and grows.

I googled and get this.

Can I sell my ar15 in Maryland?


Last updated January 3, 2023 . Maryland now prohibits the possession, sale, offering of sale, transfer, purchase, receipt, or transportation into the state of an assault weapon, which includes assault pistols and assault long guns.Jan 3, 2023

I need clarification on this BS from Giffords...

Assault Weapons in Maryland

Research Maryland state laws on assault weapons, including what is regulated and what's not. Find related gun law details from Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence today.

giffords.org

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

From the link above, WTF..

Last updated January 3, 2023 .

Maryland now prohibits the possession, sale, offering of sale, transfer, purchase, receipt, or transportation into the state of an assault weapon, which includes assault pistols and assault long guns.1

There are various exceptions under the prohibitions, including returning an assault weapon to a customer in another state that was transferred to a licensed firearms dealer under the terms of a warrant or for repair, or for the possession of an inherited assault weapon as long as the person inheriting the assault weapon is not otherwise disqualified from possessing a regulated firearm.2 Additionally, a person who lawfully possessed an assault pistol before June 1, 1994 may continue to transport and possess the weapon if it was registered with the Maryland State Police before August 1, 1994.3

Assault weapons qualify as state-defined “regulated firearms,”4 and transfers of such guns, if allowed at all, are subject to enhanced background checks, firearms dealer regulations, private sales requirements and reporting of lost or stolen firearms regulations. In addition, purchasers:

• Must be age 21 or older (see the Minimum Age to Purchase & Possess Firearms in Maryland section);
• Are subject to the state’s seven-day waiting period ; and
• Are limited to one assault weapon in any 30-day period (see the Multiple Purchases & Sales of Firearms in Maryland section).

LEGACY WEAPONS​

A licensed firearms dealer may continue to possess, sell, offer for sale, or transfer an assault long gun or a copycat weapon that the licensed firearms dealer lawfully possessed on or before October 1, 2013.5

A person who lawfully possesses or has a purchase order for, or completed an application to purchase an assault long gun or a copycat weapon before October 1, 2013, may:

• Possess and transport the assault long gun or copycat weapon; or
• While carrying a court order requiring the surrender of the assault long gun or copycat weapon, transport the weapon directly to a local law enforcement unit if the person has notified the unit that the person is transporting the assault long gun or copycat weapon in accordance with a court order and the weapon is unloaded.6

A person may transport an assault weapon to or from:

• An “ISO 17025 accredited, National Institute of Justice-approved ballistics testing laboratory;” or
• A facility or entity that manufacturers or provides research and development testing, analysis, or engineering for personal protective equipment or vehicle protection systems.7

LEGACY WEAPONS​

 

[Sirex]

Since you aren't a dealer, I wouldn't list as new, and new old stock is pushing it, in case a buyer decides to be difficult. I'd list it as used, but put in description that you bought them new and have not fired them and they have all accessories and boxes. A buyer can infer they are new.

Gunbroker also charges tax, and as of last time I bought or sold (2 months ago), for some reason they tax shipping. Put in your listing the buyers FFL needs to accept shipments from a private seller, and if they require it be shipped FROM a FFL, ad X amount of dollars.

Shipping, generally UPS and FedEx have made it difficult for private sellers to ship firearms. You CAN ship a long gun thru the mail but it has to go REGISTERED MAIL, from what my postmaster told me.

I'd set it up as an auction. Colt rifles are sought after. List at whatever the lowest you'd accept, and see if it goes higher. Good luck!

 

[Worsley]

My disgust grows and grows.

I googled and get this.

Can I sell my ar15 in Maryland?


Last updated January 3, 2023 . Maryland now prohibits the possession, sale, offering of sale, transfer, purchase, receipt, or transportation into the state of an assault weapon, which includes assault pistols and assault long guns.Jan 3, 2023

I need clarification on this BS from Giffords...

Assault Weapons in Maryland

Research Maryland state laws on assault weapons, including what is regulated and what's not. Find related gun law details from Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence today.

giffords.org

Since you aren't a dealer, I wouldn't list as new, and new old stock is pushing it, in case a buyer decides to be difficult. I'd list it as used, but put in description that you bought them new and have not fired them and they have all accessories and boxes. A buyer can infer they are new.

Gunbroker also charges tax, and as of last time I bought or sold (2 months ago), for some reason they tax shipping. Put in your listing the buyers FFL needs to accept shipments from a private seller, and if they require it be shipped FROM a FFL, ad X amount of dollars.

Shipping, generally UPS and FedEx have made it difficult for private sellers to ship firearms. You CAN ship a long gun thru the mail but it has to go REGISTERED MAIL, from what my postmaster told me.

I'd set it up as an auction. Colt rifles are sought after. List at whatever the lowest you'd accept, and see if it goes higher. Good luck!

Great advice, thanks!

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Good Luck Bro Worsley

 

[Sirex]

Oh, and put a disclaimer in you GB ad, that THEY are responsible for knowing their laws, and what is or isn't legal. Make it clear you aren't refunding shipping either way if it has to be returned to you

 

[bcr229]

Once a firearm has been on a 4473 it is used, doesn't matter whether or not you fired it.

Non-licensees can ship long guns USPS, registered mail is not required. Send it priority insured and package it well if the receiving FFL will accept shipments from non-licensees.

UPS and FedEx are no longer options for non-licensees due to their policies.

 

[Worsley]

Oh, and put a disclaimer in you GB ad, that THEY are responsible for knowing their laws, and what is or isn't legal. Make it clear you aren't refunding shipping either way if it has to be returned to you

Good to know!

 

[Worsley]

Once a firearm has been on a 4473 it is used, doesn't matter whether or not you fired it.

Non-licensees can ship long guns USPS, registered mail is not required. Send it priority insured and package it well if the receiving FFL will accept shipments from non-licensees.

UPS and FedEx are no longer options for non-licensees due to their policies.

Ah, I can say stuff like original owner, unfired, LNIB, ETC.

 

[bcr229]

Ah, I can say stuff like original owner, unfired, LNIB, ETC.

Yes, you can, but when picking the limited options of "New", "New Old Stock", and "Used" when setting up the auction, you should pick "Used".

 

[Trumpet]

Technically "used". Put in verbiage to explain they're unfired with a TON of pics to include boxes, documentation, etc. Unless you're getting out of ARs altogether, keep the mags.