Carry Permit App In The Mail

fireup · Mar 13, 2012

Application hand submitted 3/9

Just checked my bank account (3/12) and the $75 application fee has been cashed... Who knows what that means but I like it. Good luck to all!

dlmcbm · Mar 13, 2012

fireup said:
Application hand submitted 3/9

Just checked my bank account (3/12) and the $75 application fee has been cashed... Who knows what that means but I like it. Good luck to all!

That means that they grab the envelope, rip it open, dig through to find the check, put it on the deposit list and chuck the envelope on the pile. :lol2:

MJD438 · Mar 13, 2012

dlmcbm said:
That means that they grab the envelope, rip it open, dig through to find the check, put it on the deposit list and chuck the envelope on the pile.

I brought this up on the main Woollard thread in a question to Patrick. I am seriously curious about what legal ramifications exist for that action. I can see holding the package completely (not cashing the check); however, by cashing the check, I would consider that to be the start of a valid application process and wonder if it creates a legal obligation to complete in a somewhat timely manner (realizing that the application says allow 90 days, but the codified rules do not specify a time limit for process completion).

dlmcbm · Mar 13, 2012

MJD438 said:
I brought this up on the main Woollard thread in a question to Patrick. I am seriously curious about what legal ramifications exist for that action. I can see holding the package completely (not cashing the check); however, by cashing the check, I would consider that to be the start of a valid application process and wonder if it creates a legal obligation to complete in a somewhat timely manner (realizing that the application says allow 90 days, but the codified rules do not specify a time limit for process completion).

Well I am sure that they would have to start it to check and make sure that the app is complete. Also you have the time limit for fingerprints and FBI background check ( I have heard that FBI "can take" up to 30 days but I doubt it). I am sure that if you DO have G&S reason then the process continues but if you DON'T then its on hold to see what happens with the STAY/APPEAL. I guess they can hold it for as long as they want providing they can supply G&S reason as to why its taking so long.

Patrick · Mar 13, 2012

MJD438 said:
I brought this up on the main Woollard thread in a question to Patrick. I am seriously curious about what legal ramifications exist for that action. I can see holding the package completely (not cashing the check); however, by cashing the check, I would consider that to be the start of a valid application process and wonder if it creates a legal obligation to complete in a somewhat timely manner (realizing that the application says allow 90 days, but the codified rules do not specify a time limit for process completion).

I don't have a solid answer. They will do what they do.

I will suggest this: if your application is complete, it is complete. The legislature could create new rules today (training, etc.) that you would still need to meet, and even apply additional fees. But the time for them to do that is dwindling.

If a stay comes and we are all meeting their rules before it goes into effect, we are good to go for as long as the court tells them they cannot deny us. Note here I am counting on a stay including an order to hold our applications vice deny them.

MJD438 · Mar 13, 2012

Patrick said:
I don't have a solid answer. They will do what they do.

I will suggest this: if your application is complete, it is complete. The legislature could create new rules today (training, etc.) that you would still need to meet, and even apply additional fees. But the time for them to do that is dwindling.

If a stay comes and we are all meeting their rules before it goes into effect, we are good to go for as long as the court tells them they cannot deny us. Note here I am counting on a stay including an order to hold our applications vice deny them.

Sorry, Patrick, was just cross-referencing based on the post to which I replied. Did not mean to confuse the issue here as well.

Personally, if I can get an appointment at one of the sites to do the LiveScan prints/notary on Friday, I will be filing my application after I get back from my business trip this week.

victorshiflett · Mar 13, 2012

fireup said:
Application hand submitted 3/9

Just checked my bank account (3/12) and the $75 application fee has been cashed... Who knows what that means but I like it. Good luck to all!

My application was sent on 3/7/12 and as of right now my check has not been cashed. I wonder why? I answered question 9A self defense and all legal purposes. My G&S reason which I did not put on the application is because my 2nd and 14th amendment allows it. I bet someone from the state police has monitored some of my posts here and decided to shelve my application.

yellowsled · Mar 13, 2012

lol.. I sent mine priority with confirmation on the 7th. I verified it arrived on the 8th and my check has not been cashed yet either.

Patrick · Mar 13, 2012

victorshiflett said:
My application was sent on 3/7/12 and as of right now my check has not been cashed. I wonder why? I answered question 9A self defense and all legal purposes. My G&S reason which I did not put on the application is because my 2nd and 14th amendment allows it. I bet someone from the state police has monitored some of my posts here and decided to shelve my application.

There are 13,000 members and 1.5 Million posts on this little site. If they got that kind of time, I'll start making personal requests via posting.

Dave21042 · Mar 13, 2012

I sent my application in on Saturday 3/10 just got the return receipt back today. Signed by TFC E A Brown on 3/12/12

br3krj · Mar 13, 2012

Submitted application today after visiting LiveScan in Glen Burnie. Excellent service there by Bill. I recommend him highly. In and out in 15 minutes. One stop shop.

DOsniper · Mar 13, 2012

Klunatic said:
Yep, I screwed up and sent $112. Got my application back with a note to resubmit with the correct amount of $75.

When did you mail yours in? They received mine this past thursday and still no return application.

swinokur · Mar 13, 2012

sent in 3-13

Mr H · Mar 13, 2012

Mooseman said:
I live in Allegany County and have to go to Frederick to get my fingerprints for my drivers license. Frederick is as far west as MVA has fingerprinting.

Hmmmmmmm.....

victorshiflett · Mar 13, 2012

Patrick said:
There are 13,000 members and 1.5 Million posts on this little site. If they got that kind of time, I'll start making personal requests via posting.

I think they will neither confirm nor deny whether they read the post here. But, I bet they do.

Samuel · Mar 14, 2012

Tough to read 1.5mil posts starting from scratch but one or two people could keep up reading with all new posts each day & flagging suspicious posts for further review. The site admin has a similar task & they manage.

victorshiflett · Mar 14, 2012

The MSP cashed my $75.00 check. So hopefully this means that since I can legally own a handgun and enjoy a 2nd and 14th amendment right as every other legal qualified US citizen, Maryland will issue me a CCW permit. As I understand it, a motion for a stay has been submitted, but the judge has not signed an order as of yet granting a stay. If a stay is granted will the stay be retroactive to the date the judge made his decision or will the stay be valid only to the day the judge grants and signs an order of stay.

swinokur · Mar 14, 2012

Unfortunately no one knows the answers to any of these questions.

It is all guesswork and conjecture until something actually happens in the way of an administrative ruling or further clarification.

rj9938 · Mar 14, 2012

Looking for updates about the CCW ruling. Has the stay been heard by a judge or does anyone now if it's been approved or denied? last date on this thread id from the 7th,what's happened since then? Tanks guys.

rj9938 · Mar 14, 2012

Sorry guys was on page one when I thought on page 3. just call me computer dumb.

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