Under 21 Ar-15 Predicament

aalmy · Jun 29, 2011

Hey guys,

New to the forum and I have had my heart set on getting an AR-15(specifically a Stag Model 8) and know that I have to be 21 and have a Gun safety card in order to purchase one. The problem is I am 19. Would it be legal to have one of my parents purchase the gun for me and then have me use it at the range and to legally transport the gun or should I be looking for a non-regulated gun such as a mini-14 as a replacement?

Thanks,
Alex

Inigoes · Jun 29, 2011

If you are under 21, whenever you would use the rifle, you would have to have parental supervision.

It's a good choice to go with an unregulated rifle. You will have plenty of fun with it in the mean time.

Ab_Normal · Jun 29, 2011

Look at a non-regulated HBAR (Colt or a copy).

aalmy · Jun 29, 2011

What about transport to and from the range, would that be legal? Without supervision. Also does it have to be from the person who purchased the rifle or anyone 21 and older?

aalmy · Jun 29, 2011

Ab_Normal said:
Look at a non-regulated HBAR (Colt or a copy).

Do you have any suggestions? I'm looking for a piston AR in particular. I guess I could always add a piston too, i.e. Adams Arms.

Sev · Jun 29, 2011

aalmy said:
Do you have any suggestions? I'm looking for a piston AR in particular. I guess I could always add a piston too, i.e. Adams Arms.

Specific reason for wanting a piston? you'll be just as well served and (usually) spend less coin with a DI gun.

RRA makes a good hbar if i remember right.

aalmy · Jun 29, 2011

Sev said:
Specific reason for wanting a piston? you'll be just as well served and (usually) spend less coin with a DI gun.

RRA makes a good hbar if i remember right.

Reliability, ease of cleaning... don't want to start the DI vs Piston debate currently haha, but thanks ill check out RRA

Lex Armarum · Jun 29, 2011

Inigoes said:
If you are under 21, whenever you would use the rifle, you would have to have parental supervision.

It's a good choice to go with an unregulated rifle. You will have plenty of fun with it in the mean time.

This is not exactly true. For handguns and all regulated firearms in Maryland, it is true. However, for bolt rifles and other non-regulated rifles, you need only be 18 years of age to purchase and/or use.

smokey · Jun 29, 2011

get a nonregulated hbar di gun now. when you're 21 get whatever piston upper you want for it if you haven't seen the light by then.

Inigoes · Jun 29, 2011

Rusty Shackleford said:
This is not exactly true. For handguns and all regulated firearms in Maryland, it is true. However, for bolt rifles and other non-regulated rifles, you need only be 18 years of age to purchase and/or use.

Even though I didn't make myself clear, I was talking about the AR the OP wants to purchase

jonnyl · Jun 29, 2011

aalmy said:
Reliability, ease of cleaning... don't want to start the DI vs Piston debate currently haha, but thanks ill check out RRA

too late!!!!

Welcome to the forum!!

Markp · Jun 29, 2011

aalmy said:
Hey guys,

New to the forum and I have had my heart set on getting an AR-15(specifically a Stag Model 8) and know that I have to be 21 and have a Gun safety card in order to purchase one. The problem is I am 19. Would it be legal to have one of my parents purchase the gun for me and then have me use it at the range and to legally transport the gun or should I be looking for a non-regulated gun such as a mini-14 as a replacement?

Thanks,
Alex

Get something not regulated... There are plenty of cool firearms that you can get that are not regulated. I'd probably save up for something beltfed, but that's just me.

The mini-14 is not a bad starting point and gives you a .223 caliber platform to work with. As others noted, the HBAR versions of the AR are not regulated.

Other really cool non-regulated firearms are out there. Including many in .223 caliber. If your heart is set on the AR, then there is only one choice (without getting into a debate about what is or is not regulated) and that is the HBAR.

Mark

My top choices of not regulated firearms, no particular order.

1. Vz-58
2. Mini-14
3. FS2000
4. FN-49
5. Keltec RFB
6. Keltec SU-16c
7. HK SL-8
8. SKS
9. RPD
10. 1919A4

annihilation-time · Jun 29, 2011

Inigoes said:
Even though I didn't make myself clear, I was talking about the AR the OP wants to purchase

No: you were pretty clear. He specially asked a question about the AR, and you answered.

annihilation-time · Jun 29, 2011

I say AR-15 HBAR, Ruger Mini 14, or SIG 556.

Inigoes · Jun 29, 2011

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the FN SCAR, Bushmaster ACR, Keltec RFB, or any of the newer platforms

annihilation-time · Jun 29, 2011

Inigoes said:
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the FN SCAR, Bushmaster ACR, Keltec RFB, or any of the newer platforms

I was thinking he would want to keep the cost closer to $1000 since he wants a Stag.

pop-gunner · Jun 29, 2011

Watch how you word that question.

"Would it be legal to have one of my parents purchase the gun for me and then have me use it at the range and to legally transport the gun or should I be looking for a non-regulated gun such as a mini-14 as a replacement?"

I know what you're trying to say but having your parents buy a gun for you would be committing a "straw purchase".

Sounds like you need a H-BAR for the time being to shoot and when you turn 21 buy yourself a 16inch upper and make it (tacti-cool).

Ab_Normal · Jun 29, 2011

pop-gunner said:
Watch how you word that question.

"Would it be legal to have one of my parents purchase the gun for me and then have me use it at the range and to legally transport the gun or should I be looking for a non-regulated gun such as a mini-14 as a replacement?"

I know what you're trying to say but having your parents buy a gun for you would be committing a "straw purchase".

Sounds like you need a H-BAR for the time being to shoot and when you turn 21 buy yourself a 16inch upper and make it (tacti-cool).

I think there is some sort of allowance for family members buying firearms as gifts for other family members and it isn't a "straw purchase". Maybe someone will chime in with more info.

annihilation-time · Jun 29, 2011

Ab_Normal said:
I think there is some sort of allowance for family members buying firearms as gifts for other family members and it isn't a "straw purchase". Maybe someone will chime in with more info.

He can't legally own a regulated firearm till he turns 21, so it would be straw purchase. He can't own a gun defined as an assault weapon, and have it registered to him.

goneshootin88 · Jun 29, 2011

If you want a piston AR look at LWRC, I think they have a HBAR style rifle

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