AGC Sues MD State Police over denied collector status

MDGolom · Jun 5, 2011

I received a legislative alert from the Associated Gun Club that they're filing suit against the MSP for denying someone their designated collector status. The alert mentioned Cpl. Cusimano by name, which is odd since most people here have had positive experiences with him. I searched here and using Google, but couldn't find any more information on this.

Anyone have any information on this? I didn't want to cut-and-paste the content of the e-mail with approval from one of the admins.

Robert · Jun 5, 2011

Hmmm,
Interesting, I just sent mine in last week. I wonder if MD is starting to limit it's approvals.

SRTMO · Jun 5, 2011

To turn down someone for DC status, I would think that they would have a good reason. It's such an easy thing to get.

mikec · Jun 5, 2011

There was a guy here who was denied,because MSP had said he hadn't bought enough regulated firearms, but of course, since one can buy things by using a C&R, how would MSP really know?

That person ended up getting his.

I wonder what is up and I hope they aren't stirring the pot unnecessarily.

Inigoes · Jun 5, 2011

Nothing popped up for "Associated Gun Club" from Jan 1, 2011, till today.

http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiryByCompany.jis

Is this a personal suit like Woollard?

THier · Jun 5, 2011

When I got my Des collector status,, I had purchased ONE regulated firearm.

There must be more to the story.

Tom

Bikebreath · Jun 5, 2011

I did not get that alert, but glad you posted here, thanks.

(Looks like we are in the same club)

THier · Jun 5, 2011

Bikebreath said:
I did not get that alert, but glad you posted here, thanks.

(Looks like we are in the same club)

Neither did I,, I got an email about the Marine museum, 2nd Amendment warning ect but not this one?

Tom

MDFF2008 · Jun 5, 2011

mikec said:
There was a guy here who was denied,because MSP had said he hadn't bought enough regulated firearms, but of course, since one can buy things by using a C&R, how would MSP really know?

That person ended up getting his.

I wonder what is up and I hope they aren't stirring the pot unnecessarily.

I hope it's related to this.

Minuteman · Jun 5, 2011

I'm thinking of keeping a copy of that letter making me a DC in my car.

Inigoes · Jun 5, 2011

Interesting enough, there is no MD law establishing the MSP to have a "Designated Collector"

Only a blurb in § 5-129. Same - Multiple purchases allowed.

(2) (i) the purchase of the regulated firearms is for a private collection or a collector series;

My speculation: This could be the beginning of the end for the one gun a month rule.

mikec · Jun 5, 2011

gprimr1 said:
I hope it's related to this.

The case I mentioned was at least 15 months back, not recent. Long since resolved.

pop-gunner · Jun 5, 2011

MDGolom said:
I received a legislative alert from the Associated Gun Club that they're filing suit against the MSP for denying someone their designated collector status. The alert mentioned Cpl. Cusimano by name, which is odd since most people here have had positive experiences with him. I searched here and using Google, but couldn't find any more information on this.

Anyone have any information on this? I didn't want to cut-and-paste the content of the e-mail with approval from one of the admins.

did yours say something like this???

Dear XXXXX,

The Department of Maryland State Police is once again violating its own regulations. This time, by denying a citizen's legal rights by refusing to issue a collector designation to a member of the AGC network. This Association is currently taking action against the Maryland State Police due to its apparent inability or unwillingness to take any corrective action regarding Corporal Michael Cusimano's refusal to comply with COMAR 29.03.01.04 Sections I, J, K and L.

You can expect to hear more on this and related issues with the Maryland State Police in the next legislative report. If you have applied for a collector designation and have been delayed or denied; please contact this office immediately.

Inigoes · Jun 5, 2011

The COMAR URL

http://www.dsd.state.md.us/comar/comarhtml/29/29.03.01.04.htm

What is the difference between a regulation and a statute?

The Legislature enacts statutes.

Administrative agencies adopt, amend and repeal regulations under the authority granted to them by statutes. Unless the Legislature has created an exemption, agencies must follow the procedures in the Administrative Procedure Act when adopting, amending or repealing regulations.

Mason-Dixon Baseball · Jun 5, 2011

THier said:
When I got my Des collector status,, I had purchased ONE regulated firearm.

There must be more to the story.

Tom

Ditto.

Mason-Dixon Baseball · Jun 5, 2011

Minuteman said:
I'm thinking of keeping a copy of that letter making me a DC in my car.

I keep that, a copy of my C & R and a copy of my MD Handgun Training Certificate in the glove box with the registration... It can't hurt..... plus you never know when you're gonna see a deal!

fivepointstar · Jun 5, 2011

Here we go again JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS without having the complete background from both sides.

I'm not saying that there is something unlawful or wrong doing here because there could be? I'm saying we need more facts before placing judgements.

Crikey, I swear if the media reported that all scientist are wrong that the world is really FLAT, there would be a few here that would believe it. :innocent0

Inigoes · Jun 5, 2011

When has the MSP ever notified anyone in writing within 14 days, that they have been approved for a collector status?

pop-gunner · Jun 5, 2011

fivepointstar said:
Here we go again JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS without having the complete background from both sides.

I'm not saying that there is something unlawful or wrong doing here because there could be? I'm saying we need more facts before placing judgements.

Crikey, I swear if the media reported that all scientist are wrong that the world is really FLAT, there would be a few here that would believe it.

Yup....I'm still wondering where the OP saw anything about a lawsuit but I figure he can explain that one.

organized_mayhem · Jun 5, 2011

fivepointstar said:
Crikey, I swear if the media reported that all scientist are wrong that the world is really FLAT, there would be a few here that would believe it.

You mean its not? :omg:

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