Evolution of my new 5R

krucam · Oct 15, 2009

What to do on a lousy rainy, cold evening? Make some Chili and corn bread, grab a Yeungling or two, oh...open up a couple of boxes that UPS left me today and have fun pimping out my new Remington 700 5R .308...

That 'curiosity' stuff will get you killed one of these days...

UPS delivered today:
Leupold Mk4 4.5-14x40 30mm LR/T
Burris 30mm Tactical Rings
Warne 20moa Steel Base
Harris 6-9" Swivel Bipod

The rings are 0.5" (rail to bottom of tube) but are a little on the large size for the 40mm objective. I'll probably spring for a 50mm in a year or so. I hope the weather clears by Sunday as I'll take her to Sanners to zero in the Scope at 100yds. Chomping the bit....

Mark C.

august1410 · Oct 15, 2009

Very nice.

That's chili and cornbread sounds pretty good, as well.

lax · Oct 15, 2009

very nice, the 5r is on "the list"

E.Shell · Oct 15, 2009

Scopes must mounted for the individual if you want to maximize your comfort and success.

There is a three step process to it.

1: Check your length of pull. Better a tad long than a little short. If it is long, which rarely happens, the pad can be removed, the stock shortened, then the pad reinstalled. To make it longer, a recoil pad can replace the solid rubber buttplate of the 5R for another 1/2" to 3/4", or a slip-on pad over the existing rubber recoil pad can add up to an inch. Failure to set the length of pull will lead to an inconsistent firing hand position and produces inconsistent group centers. Shooters using a short stock can often shoot nice groups, but it's usually two clusters 1/2 MOA apart.

2: Check/adjust your comb height. Get down behind the gun, look through the scope and then close your eyes and relax. After 10-15 seconds, open your eyes and see where you are. Unless you have an uncommonly long face, the Picatinny rials system you have will be too high for your eye to be behind the scope with out muscle fatigue. Even adding an Eagle stock pack (my own preference) is sometimes not enough, and layers of self-adhesive insulating foam (Home Depot HVAC department) can be stuck together with the sticky sides against each other to add 1/8" at a time until it's correct. Another great product is Karsten's adjustable cheek piece, but it does require drilling the stock, which may not be desirable for some folks.

Failure to set the comb height to the correct level will introduce muscle strain, which causes reduced accuracy and muscle fatigue in the form of discomfort at the base of the neck and between the shoulders.

3: Set your eye relief. The base of the neck acts as a hinge, and the higher the comb, the further back your eye goes. For this reason, eye relief can only be correctly set after we have adjusted the comb height. With the variable scope set on maximum magnification (where eye relief is most critical), we can slide the scope back and forth until we see a full, clear circle through the scope.

Because we tend to subconsciously compensate for ill fit, again close your eyes and relax, then open your eyes to double check your setting.

If yo take the time to perform these adjustments correctly, it can make a very big difference in consistency, accuracy and how one feesl after a few hours opr all day behind the gun.

05dodgedaytona · Oct 15, 2009

Very nice.

El_flasko · Oct 15, 2009

VERY nice

Inigoes · Oct 15, 2009

Nice, have you boresighted that rascal in yet?

joppaj · Oct 15, 2009

Dang Krucam, you just picked it up on Monday. You don't play around, do you?

VRC Racing · Oct 15, 2009

Nice stick, need to bring it to Quantico and try it's legs to 1K

-Russ

krucam · Oct 15, 2009

Inigoes said:
Nice, have you boresighted that rascal in yet?

No and I don't plan to buy/use a boresight. I'll put 2 shots down at 25yds (pistol range), adjust and 2 more to be sure...move to 50yds, repeat, etc, etc....I figure 20 rds to get me zeroed at 100yds. This will of course be in coincidence with my 20-25 barrel break in routine... :innocent0

I'll then break out some of the good Federal GMM 168g stuff...just for the hell of it and put 3-5 rds of that down range at 100yd and start my log book in earnest.

E.Shell said:
Scopes must mounted for the individual if you want to maximize your comfort and success.

There is a three step process to it.

1: Check your length of pull. Better a tad long than a little short. If it is long, which rarely happens, the pad can be removed, the stock shortened, then the pad reinstalled. To make it longer, a recoil pad can replace the solid rubber buttplate of the 5R for another 1/2" to 3/4", or a slip-on pad over the existing rubber recoil pad can add up to an inch. Failure to set the length of pull will lead to an inconsistent firing hand position and produces inconsistent group centers. Shooters using a short stock can often shoot nice groups, but it's usually two clusters 1/2 MOA apart.

2: Check/adjust your comb height. Get down behind the gun, look through the scope and then close your eyes and relax. After 10-15 seconds, open your eyes and see where you are. Unless you have an uncommonly long face, the Picatinny rials system you have will be too high for your eye to be behind the scope with out muscle fatigue. Even adding an Eagle stock pack (my own preference) is sometimes not enough, and layers of self-adhesive insulating foam (Home Depot HVAC department) can be stuck together with the sticky sides against each other to add 1/8" at a time until it's correct. Another great product is Karsten's adjustable cheek piece, but it does require drilling the stock, which may not be desirable for some folks.

Failure to set the comb height to the correct level will introduce muscle strain, which causes reduced accuracy and muscle fatigue in the form of discomfort at the base of the neck and between the shoulders.

3: Set your eye relief. The base of the neck acts as a hinge, and the higher the comb, the further back your eye goes. For this reason, eye relief can only be correctly set after we have adjusted the comb height. With the variable scope set on maximum magnification (where eye relief is most critical), we can slide the scope back and forth until we see a full, clear circle through the scope.

Because we tend to subconsciously compensate for ill fit, again close your eyes and relax, then open your eyes to double check your setting.

If yo take the time to perform these adjustments correctly, it can make a very big difference in consistency, accuracy and how one feesl after a few hours opr all day behind the gun.

Great info Ed, I feel like my cheek needs to rise above the stock more than I care for, but this is only in my living room, sighting in as best as I can at this computer monitor which is 20 feet away. I'll know more when I go out to zero the scope, hopefully this weekend. The reach feels fine and natural.

I may be in the market for a cheek rest, or...buy a set of .25" rise rings. We'll see after the live vs dry fires this weekend!

Mark C.

krucam · Oct 15, 2009

VRC Racing said:
Nice stick, need to bring it to Quantico and try it's legs to 1K

-Russ

That's my goal... :innocent0

Mark C.

3rdRcn · Oct 15, 2009

Very nice krucam, nice meeting you the other day as well.

krucam · Oct 21, 2009

.663" !!!

I'm a recent re-convert to rifles, just Jones-ing to get out to Quantico perhaps next spring perhaps and have it "handed to me" when trying out an F-Class.

Today, following several days of breaking in my new 5R and tweaking on getting the scope sighted in, I decided on a beautiful 70 degree day to try her out at 100yds using Fiocchi Exacta Match 168gr instead of the UMC stuff I'd been using for the first 30 rds.

I'm still learning the technique, breathing, cheek and butt-hold stuff, but on my 2nd to last 3-shot group I got this:

I can only hope to improve this with better technique, but I'm liking it so far. 2/3moa and 50rds through the barrel and an inexperienced person on the trigger, yada, yada, yada...

I've yet to break out my Federal GMM.

I hope to make 100 yards as boring as hell as quickly as possible.

Mark C.

Todd v. · Oct 21, 2009

Keep in mind the 175gr stuff might not group as well at 100 yards because sometimes it doesn't stabilize quick enough. It will most often group better, in terms of MOA, at 150 yards +. Nice looking rig!!

armed ferret · Oct 24, 2009

krucam said:
No and I don't plan to buy/use a boresight.

Not necessary.

Remove bolt.

Look down bore.

Set bore as centered as possible on a bull at 25 yards.

Adjust scope to be centered on bull at 25 yards.

Fire for effect, make fine adjustments as necessary. :thumbsup:

Russ D · Oct 24, 2009

armed ferret said:
Not necessary.

Remove bolt.

Look down bore.

Set bore as centered as possible on a bull at 25 yards.

Adjust scope to be centered on bull at 25 yards.

Fire for effect, make fine adjustments as necessary.

Always works for me.

krucam · Nov 3, 2009

.404"

Great day at Sanners today. I was trying out Federal Gold Match 168, Hornaday 168, and M118LR 175. By far, my best 3-round group at 100 yards was with the Hornaday Match.

I'm still learning technique and the below group was with a bag below the stock which I just tried today...noob I know but as I said, still learning.

Whoot!

Echo Victor · Nov 3, 2009

nice table, is that teak?

Echo Victor · Nov 3, 2009

oh, good shooting too! :thumbsup:

K Train · Nov 3, 2009

you coming to the modified match Sunday?

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