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  • swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,489
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    “Creative” editing by Katie Couric, who must have graduated from the Joseph Goebbels School of Journalism, has intentionally and significantly changed the response of VCDL members in a new video called “Under the Gun” - and I have PROOF.


    VCDL APPROACHED TO BE PART OF A “DOCUMENTARY”

    I received an email in March of 2015 from Kristin Lazure, a producer for Atlas Films, asking if VCDL would be part of "a documentary about the gun violence prevention movement in America.”

    In the email, Kristin said, "Some of the storylines we're exploring include the legislative process on the federal and state level, how the Second Amendment has been interpreted in the wake of the Supreme Court's Heller ruling, and what impact mass shootings like Aurora and Sandy Hook have on gun reform legislation.” She continued, "In order to fully understand the complexities of this hot button topic and speak to an audience with varied viewpoints, Ms. Couric is very eager to include all perspectives in this discussion."

    As is VCDL’s general policy with the media, we do our best to accommodate their requests, as it gives us a chance to get our message out to the public. It is a policy that has worked well for as long as VCDL has been around, with the exception of four times, and this was to be one of those exceptions.

    Katie’s team was set up to film in Washington, DC, and Kristin wanted to know if I could come there for the interview. I said that I would not come to DC, so they rented a conference room in a hotel in Northern Virginia and brought down their crew for what ended up being a two hour interview with Katie on April 13, 2015. (The audio of the raw interview is below).

    Later, Dennis O’Connor and I took Katie and her crew to Blue Ridge Arsenal to film Katie learning how to shoot on May 11, 2015. While there, she also interviewed Dennis.


    GROUP INTERVIEW

    Later, Kristin contacted me about arranging an interview of a group of VCDL members.

    The group interview was held in the room where VCDL meetings are held and ended just as VCDL members were coming in for the regularly scheduled Annandale membership meeting on June 18, 2015.

    Participating in the group session were Ed Levine, Patricia Webb, Terrell Prude’, Dan Hawes, Leonard Harris, John Wilburn, Rubiner Toor, Barak Ulrich James, and Judy Rudek.


    THE “DOCUMENTARY” TURNS OUT TO BE AN “INFOMERCIAL” FOR GUN CONTROL

    While the movie claims to be a documentary, it's clear after watching it that it was never intended to be a balanced presentation of the issues.

    People from other gun groups were also interviewed, but in the end the video dedicated a mere fifteen minutes or so to the pro-self-defense side (of which VCDL had only about four minutes), while giving an hour and a half to the antis.


    CREATIVE EDITING BY KATIE COURIC CHANGES THE VCDL GROUP’S ANSWER TO A KEY QUESTION

    Katie apparently wasn’t getting anything from either the group or me that she could use to further her pro-gun-control arguments. In fact my entire two-hour interview was left on the cutting room floor, but some of the group interview made it into the final film. However, one of the question/answer responses was altered - and therein lies the problem.

    Watching the video, you hear Katie ask, “If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorist from walking into, say, a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?” The camera then shows the group members TOTALLY SILENT FOR EIGHT SECONDS. The camera zooms in on one member, who looks down.

    The clear implication is that none of the group had an answer for that question and was being evasive and avoiding eye contact.

    The truth is, and as you will hear in the audio, below, that the group responded to Katie immediately, with answers to her question! Yet the video shows no one responding. Clearly, when Katie didn't get the answer(s) she wanted, she changed the group’s answers by replacing them with other video of the group sitting around quietly between questions.

    Unbelievable. And extremely unprofessional. In essence Katie lied about the VCDL members' answers. If she so cavalierly lied in this instance, what other things did she alter in this movie or any of her previous reporting to advance her own personal agendas?

    While I am used to our side being given less time in the press than the antis are given, I’m not used to having our words changed. That is a big journalistic “no no.”

    Back in 1993, Dateline faked an accidental explosion of a truck to show that model truck was dangerous if involved in a collision. Dateline couldn’t actually create an explosion by crashing vehicles into the truck, so they ultimately, and shamefully, planted incendiary devices on the truck to force it to blow up.

    What Katie did is similar.

    Speaking of cheerleading for gun control, at the end of the infomercial the names of eight anti-self-defense groups that participated in the project are prominently listed under the title of "Join Those Already Making a Difference," with viewers encouraged to contact them for more information. Not one single pro-self-defense group, including VCDL, is listed as a source of information.



    The audio of the full group interview is here, skip to the 36 minute and 43 second mark to hear the question on felons and the answers the group provided. There is no silence, but Katie needed something to show gun owners are unreasonable in their opposition to universal background checks, so she provided eight seconds of silence for us:

    http://vcdl.org:80/resources/Media/katiecouricinterview06182015.mp3

    Feel free to listen to the entire interview. I think the group did a phenomenal job defending our gun rights and that’s why the group doesn’t appear in the infomercial but for a few minutes, with a key part edited to serve a gun-control agenda.

    You can watch Katie Curic's gun control infomercial for free at: http://www.epix.com/movie/under-the-gun/

    (The Epix web site for the movie says "with a narration from renowned journalist Katie Couric". Renowned for what? Lying?)

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    As an FYI, my full interview (raw) can be heard here:

    http://vcdl.org:80/resources/Media/PVCInterview_1.mp3

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    POST THIS FAR AND WIDE TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT KATIE’S PHONY “DOCUMENTARY” CALLED “UNDER THE GUN”
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    Silent Partner

    Active Member
    Nov 18, 2015
    521
    The Hereford Zone
    VCDL got exactly what they deserved. They should know better then to trust any media much less Katie Couric whom is a well known anti. She has no scruples, which is why she was dismissed from NBC, then CBS, then ABC only to windup at Yahoo news, not sure she's even there anymore? Before any firearms organization participates in any media interview always request, I believe it's called, a right to refusal.
     

    StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,932
    Our new FOP rep had the same thing done. He did a 30 min interview about how he wanted the department and Cathy to work together and they only showed the 45 seconds of him stating that he was gay.......which we all knew already and no one gave a crap.

    The media serves its purpose sometimes but not when there really is no story. Don't look for facts just basic who and where info........None of them can every figure out a why.
     

    StantonCree

    Watch your beer
    Jan 23, 2011
    23,932
    Our new FOP rep had the same thing done. He did a 30 min interview about how he wanted the department and Cathy to work together and they only showed the 45 seconds of him stating that he was gay.......which we all knew already and no one gave a crap.

    The media serves its purpose sometimes but not when there really is no story. Don't look for facts just basic who and where info........None of them can every figure out a why.
     

    Stoveman

    TV Personality
    Patriot Picket
    Sep 2, 2013
    28,431
    Cuba on the Chesapeake
    Katie Couric deceiving and unprofessional?


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    Elliotte

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 11, 2011
    1,207
    Loudoun County VA
    The smart thing was insisting everything being done in VA. VA is a one-party consent state for audio recording, so VCDL was able to record all proceedings to provide a true record of what happened.
     

    TheBert

    The Member
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 10, 2013
    7,732
    Gaithersburg, Maryland
    I would like to see the Demoncrats asked the following question.

    “If there are no background checks for [voter registration], how do you prevent felons or terrorist from walking into, say, a [polling place] and [casting a vote]?”

    Somebody needs to start throwing this stuff right back into their faces!
     

    EL1227

    R.I.P.
    Patriot Picket
    Nov 14, 2010
    20,274
    Are VCDL officers 'media trained' ?

    As a person who has had 'media training' for my job, the answer is always 'NO' unless they agree to our company's terms in writing, which usually mandates final editorial review and usage of images, text, and audio. That in itself stops them cold, or at least makes them cautious for fear of legal action.

    If VCDL doesn't have a lawyer-approved release agreement, they need one going forward. The same goes for MSI, AGC, and any other groups officers that will most likely be approached as the left-leaning media intensifies it's support of the DemocRATS gun-grabbing plans. Signing the media's release DOESN'T, as it is one-sided and won't protect you or your organization.

    As far as casual membership ... Loose Lips, Sink Ships & 2A Rights along with them. So, refer to them an org officer and have them Sign Zee Papers ...
     

    Kman

    Blah, blah, blah
    Dec 23, 2010
    11,992
    Eastern shore
    The smart thing was insisting everything being done in VA. VA is a one-party consent state for audio recording, so VCDL was able to record all proceedings to provide a true record of what happened.

    That's good, but compare the platforms and audiences.
    Less than 1% of the people taking in Couric's version will ever learn the truth.
    Never play nice with people who hate you.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,489
    Westminster USA
    Update:

    Your efforts to spread the word on Katie Couric’s deliberate deception in her gun-control infomercial is paying off! NO, IT IS EXPLODING!

    In fact, Stephen Gutowski, with the Washington Free Beacon, just put out a fantastic piece on it, INCLUDING a clip of the original video from the film AND the VCDL audio showing the deception clearly!

    Here’s a link to his article (spread this far and wide, too):

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/audio-...ceptively-edited-interview-pro-gun-activists/

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/h8djgk6


    NewsBusters has also jumped in!

    http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kri...ourics-fact-based-anti-gun-doc-despite-claims

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/gocqdua


    And HotAir.com:

    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/...ptive-editing-to-make-gun-owners-look-stupid/

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/jnpr8sy


    And the National Review:

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/435847/katie-couric-lying-anti-gun-documentary


    And the Daily Beast:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats...deceptively-editing-pro-gun-interviewees.html

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/hz9qtq6


    And Townhall.com:

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2016/05/25/surprise-katie-couric-n2168851


    And Bearing Arms:

    http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05/24/katie-couric-accused-doctoring-interviews-anti-gun-film/

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/hm9drpz


    And another by Bearing Arms (hard hitting):

    http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05/25/fraud-gungate-real-end-katie-courics-career/

    or

    http://tinyurl.com/h9pl8yz


    ——

    I’m also getting word that other news outlets are actively pursuing the story, including NPR, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, and more… Stay tuned!
     

    aray

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 6, 2010
    5,314
    MD -> KY
    Katie Couric is a liar and a charlatan, much like the "news" organizations themselves who have paid her outlandish amounts of money. She once worked for NBC, a network well known for its fraud. Witness the time they put a bomb under a GM truck to falsely claim it would explode on impact:



    More details about that incident are here.

    They're all scum.
     

    aray

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 6, 2010
    5,314
    MD -> KY
    Update: Until someone edits it out (!) Wikipedia has included the controversy in their article about her. They write here:

    Controversy over the film, "Under the Gun"

    Debuting May 13, 2016, Couric was the Executive Producer and Narrator of the film, Under the Gun. The film has been widely criticized for deceptive editing of interviews with pro-gun activists. Phillip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, released raw audio of the interviews (at the 36 minute and 43 second mark) that directly contradicts the film as released. Couric has yet to respond to requests for comment.

    :lol2:
     

    Mike

    Propietario de casa, Toluca, México
    MDS Supporter
    The great thing about a wiki..it can always be put back in.

    yes, but no. The "editors" there removed it for a third time and locked the page now. Looks like they are all butt-hurt over the info posted. Say she's a "favorite whipping post for conservatives". It appears The Truth hurts when your a liberal propaganda rag.
     

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