Buying a pre '64 Winchester '94. What's a fair price?

Bafflingbs · Nov 8, 2015

This rifle was listed as Superb! 98%. It's serial numbers place it as a '63. Anyway, my question is, if you were in the market for this rifle, what would you be willing to pay? What's a fair, market value for it? etc. etc. From the pictures supplied, it looks beautiful. Also, the bore and rifling is supposed to be near perfect as well. Just looking for some reassurance. Just to give a background, I've got a Henry Big Boy 44, a JM marked Marlin in .357. This will complete my lever collection in 30/30.

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BossmanPJ · Nov 8, 2015

I have a 1962 in close condition and I have been offered $1000 for it. I turned it down as it was a family inheritance, but the values are all over the place.

What is the asking price of you don't mind?

BossmanPJ · Nov 8, 2015

Neat to see that this rifle is drilled and tapped for a Williams peep sight. Mine is as well.

Bafflingbs · Nov 8, 2015

BossmanPJ said:
Neat to see that this rifle is drilled and tapped for a Williams peep sight. Mine is as well.

Is that a good thing? Was it done that way from the factory? I paid $895.

ted76 · Nov 8, 2015

Bafflingbs said:
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Looks like a big crack in the stock at the wrist, from what I see the metal looks good, but a good original buttstock will be hard to find for under $200. If the stock wasn't cracked I think a fair price would be about $600-$650. As is I would not pay more than $400. I have been looking for a stock set for a mid 50's1894, that someone did treestand art on, and have not found a good stock set for it 2 years for under $250. There is a decent buttstock with on ebay for $165 right now, but it has one big mark on it.

iH8DemLibz · Nov 8, 2015

That crack is grain structure/mineral streak.

AKA: Not a crack.

Bafflingbs · Nov 8, 2015

It's not a crack, the wood seems to have a lot of striping.

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ted76 · Nov 8, 2015

Did you pick that up at today's Redding Auction, it looks like their hang tag?
I'm glad that's not a crack.

fidelity · Nov 8, 2015

Looks like it's in decent shape. I think $650-700 is more than fair if in very good condition. There's still a lot of pre-64 Model 94s available. I thought that they would be hard to find when shopping, but so many were produced/sold, that I found a lot of options. There is a $200-300 premium over the later produced rifles (esp from 1965 to the mid 1970s, many of which are in the $350-450 range).

fidelity · Nov 8, 2015

Bafflingbs said:
Is that a good thing? Was it done that way from the factory? I paid $895.

If it's in superb condition, as you comment, that's fine. It's sometimes hard to place value on something close to a museum piece (prices can be in a wide band). It's very close to what one would pay for a new Miroku built Model 94 with grade 1 wood, and this one is American built with a machined receiver.

Bafflingbs · Nov 8, 2015

fidelity said:
If it's in superb condition, as you comment, that's fine. It's sometimes hard to place value on something close to a museum piece (prices can be in a wide band). It's very close to what one would pay for a new Miroku built Model 94 with grade 1 wood, and this one is American built with a machined receiver.

Machined? I thought it is forged? :confused:

Never mind, I just read it was "it was a machined forged receiver."
http://www.chuckhawks.com/win_pre_64_M94.htm

Jimbob2.0 · Nov 8, 2015

Id think $800 to $1,000 would be about right. The only thing that would really top it would have been if it was WWII era production which are a little scarce.

Nice gun.

Bafflingbs · Nov 8, 2015

Jimbob2.0 said:
Id think $800 to $1,000 would be about right. The only thing that would really top it would have been if it was WWII era production which are a little scarce.

Nice gun.

Thanks JimBob

byf43 · Nov 9, 2015

Bafflingbs said:
Is that a good thing? Was it done that way from the factory? I paid $895.

IF I had been in the market for a .30/30, I would have been all over that, like stink on poop.

Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice find!!!!!!!!!!! Sure looks good to me! :thumbsup:

fidelity · Nov 9, 2015

Finally look at the pics from a computer in the morning. The larger shots look nice! :thumbsup:

Better than the condition of my 1938 Model 94 (which was initially dated using inaccurate Winchester resources to 1941 but this online tool indicates is a 1938, explanation here and here). The wood is possibly upgraded too.

I'm tempted to put mine up for valuation there, but need to take better pics first. It looks pretty similar but is in better condition than this one from 1938 (also misidentified to be from 1940), suggesting that I got a deal (which is probably easier to find for guns in the very good condition range vs higher categories).

Btw, I saw the GunBroker ad in which you bought yours, and double checked the serial number (with the same tool), and it checks out as a 1963.

Below are some pics of a couple of the last pre-64 Model 94s ... real beauties (enhanced by great photography) with grade 3 wood ... note the serial numbers relative to yours too ...

(from: http://www.pbase.com/stusmithphoto/antique_firearms ; Stuart Smith photographer)

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