HPRB July 7, 2015 Meeting Thread

CypherPunk · Jun 16, 2015

This is for discussion and possible planning purposes.

Blacksmith101 · Jun 17, 2015

For each meeting encourage more interested people to attend and eventually they will move the location. Years ago the State held a series of public hearings about building a golf course on Fair Hill NRMA, a local developers bright idea, and each meeting had increasing attendance as the word spread. They moved the location three times to accommodate the crowds the last one was in a school auditorium, and as the crowds grew so did the interest of various political candidates. The golf course idea was scrapped. Nothing like some sunshine to move things in the right direction.

Gryphon · Jun 17, 2015

There is a good chance I won't be able to make this one, but I encourage others to go. While frustrating, it is eye opening. If something changes I'll still try to get there.

ShallNotInfringe · Jun 17, 2015

Can't attend. Am having surgery the day before.

Look forward to the AAR.

Maybe they'll figure this out soon. Maybe MSI will have a conversation with the chair, seems like something they could get involved with under their official charter.

Nice crew there, keep up the good work.

CharlieFoxtrot · Jun 17, 2015

I will be there. I believe my law partner is coming with me as well.

BeoBill · Jun 17, 2015

Based on experience with other game-playing, I'd counsel those who think they will attend to email their intention in advance.

As a refresher:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=175143

The POC given there is outdated, and should be corrected. it's now jgoodman@dpscs.state.md.us

EDIT: It probably be a good idea to send your email with a "read request" - I just did.

DC-W · Jun 17, 2015

I plan to attend as many of these as possible. Tuesdays line up well with my personal/work schedule.

Schipperke · Jun 17, 2015

Do they ever move to Rockville?

DC-W · Jun 17, 2015

Well, our involvement could at least get them moved out of a dungeon, lol

BeoBill · Jun 17, 2015

DC-W said:
Well, our involvement could at least get them moved out of a dungeon, lol

I get the feeling that this is the first time that anyone other than the board members and the month's supplicants have shown any interest in their proceedings, and they are surprised and suspicious.

Gryphon · Jun 17, 2015

BeoBill said:
I get the feeling that this is the first time that anyone other than the board members and the month's supplicants have shown any interest in their proceedings, and they are surprised and suspicious.

Perhaps, but it is a public meeting and there is no requirement that you "RSVP" in advance. If you can show up, even at the last minute ...

MJD438 · Jun 17, 2015

Gryphon said:
Perhaps, but it is a public meeting and there is no requirement that you "RSVP" in advance. If you can show up, even at the last minute ...

However, per the Open Meetings Act, it can be inferred that ,if they have advance notice of an audience larger than the projected space, they must move the meeting.

§3–102.
(a) It is essential to the maintenance of a democratic society that, except in
special and appropriate circumstances:
(1) public business be conducted openly and publicly; and
(2) the public be allowed to observe:
(i) the performance of public officials; and
(ii) the deliberations and decisions that the making of public policy involves.
(b) (1) The ability of the public, its representatives, and the media to attend,
report on, and broadcast meetings of public bodies and to witness the phases of the deliberation, policy formation, and decision making of public bodies ensures the accountability of government to the citizens of the State.
(2) The conduct of public business in open meetings increases the faith
of the public in government and enhances the effectiveness of the public in fulfilling its role in a democratic society.
(c) Except in special and appropriate circumstances when meetings of public
bodies may be closed under this title, it is the public policy of the State that the public be provided with adequate notice of the time and location of meetings of public bodies, which shall be held in places reasonably accessible to individuals who would like to attend these meetings.

Gryphon · Jun 17, 2015

I can only hope that becomes an issue ...If it does anyone else can gladly take my place and enjoy the proceedings.

rambling_one · Jun 17, 2015

I plan to rsvp.

BeoBill · Jun 17, 2015

Gryphon said:
Perhaps, but it is a public meeting and there is no requirement that you "RSVP" in advance. If you can show up, even at the last minute ...

I'm providing that advice based on what they did admitting people to the last meeting. The next step is "The List" - if you're not on it you don't get in.

Gamesmanship 101. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.

Do as you will.

CypherPunk · Jun 17, 2015

I, along with others are currently working a coordinated plan.

Many of you know me, so I will let my reputation and record speak for itself.

If you wish to participate, please email me via MDS PM.

Otherwise, please be careful not to derail our well considered efforts.

dblas · Jun 17, 2015

ShallNotInfringe said:
Can't attend. Am having surgery the day before.

Look forward to the AAR.

Maybe they'll figure this out soon. Maybe MSI will have a conversation with the chair, seems like something they could get involved with under their official charter.

Nice crew there, keep up the good work.

Being discussed....

dblas · Jun 17, 2015

Schipperke said:
Do they ever move to Rockville?

Nope, though it has been a thought in the back of my head to see if we could get a sponsor to submit an amendment to the statute to have the meetings held in the county of the person requesting the review. Similar to how a review hearing for the HQL has to held in the appellants county.

dblas · Jun 17, 2015

BeoBill said:
I get the feeling that this is the first time that anyone other than the board members and the month's supplicants have shown any interest in their proceedings, and they are surprised and suspicious.

About 8 - 10 months ago, MDS members started showing up at the HPRB meetings and startled them. Those were fun times.

Then we took a break and it looks like others have taken up the issue, and perhaps now that we have a change in administration and department leadership, we can get some changes made in the operation of the HPRB.

Time will tell.

And I plan on being there on the 7th.

dblas · Jun 17, 2015

BeoBill said:
I'm providing that advice based on what they did admitting people to the last meeting. The next step is "The List" - if you're not on it you don't get in.

Gamesmanship 101. Been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.

Do as you will.

Understood wholeheartedly...May I pick your brain at some point on the OMA issue?

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