HQL for AR-15 lower transfer?
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- Jul 29, 2014
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Not stripped
Just transferred a STRIPPED lower at Glen Burnie MSP Barracks...
NO HQL required for stripped lower...AKA "Other" in MSP parlance...
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NO HQL required for stripped lower...AKA "Other" in MSP parlance...
R
-Z/28-
I wanna go fast
If they don't want to transfer it, I would just take your business elsewhere.
The issue with that would be they already have it..... I've done good business with them before. They had a young kid behind the counter and the owner wasn't there. I'll go back and try tomorrow, but was hoping to get some verbiage to point to incase the owner is singing the same tune...
BrewDoc_MD
Piss off, ghost!
a stripped lower is NOT a handgun. Hell, even a completed lower is NOT a handgun.
IANAL or a LGS.
IANAL or a LGS.
- Jul 29, 2014
- 50,100
THISThanks brew doc, exactly what I was hoping to find.
So- turns out that I got the form wrong. The 4473 is the ATF form and they could give a shit less. MSPs form (77R) is what the issue was. This shop claims that MSP is telling them that they can only classify reciever transfers as HBAR or PISTOL. If you chose pistol, they are making you have an HQL, even though BrewDoc's reference to the website specifically states it's not needed.
Unfortunately for me, the reciever is already in their possession, so it's either pay $50 to transfer it to another FFL, that doesn't req HQL, and then pay their transfer fee on top of it......or just go pay the $50 + live scan fee and just get the HQL......
REALLY kinda of pissed that I'm essentially getting forced into my HQL at the expense of my reciever transfer....for a RIFLE
Unfortunately for me, the reciever is already in their possession, so it's either pay $50 to transfer it to another FFL, that doesn't req HQL, and then pay their transfer fee on top of it......or just go pay the $50 + live scan fee and just get the HQL......
REALLY kinda of pissed that I'm essentially getting forced into my HQL at the expense of my reciever transfer....for a RIFLE
Hollywood Ball
Mountaineer
How much do you have in the lower? Probably just easier at this point to find a shop with one in stock. Cut your losses. Deal with someone that knows the law.
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Work the Math......if it's their "other" and you already paid for it, what's the "re-stock" fee?? (another scam). HQL can be expensive with some folks dropping over a hundred clams.......if it were I (after doing the Math) I would seek another FFL.
Unless things have changed agin, stripped lowers were classified as "Other" on the 77R. And that's the way mine just cleared ( Oct 22) it was listed as "OTHER"......
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Unless things have changed agin, stripped lowers were classified as "Other" on the 77R. And that's the way mine just cleared ( Oct 22) it was listed as "OTHER"......
R
If it's an O, why do they say an HQL is needed? it could be built into an HBAR.
-Z/28-
I wanna go fast
I'd pay the transfer fee at another FFL just to spite the ignorant dealer.
BrewDoc_MD
Piss off, ghost!
If I were you, I'd tell the current FFL to call it an HBAR. cut your losses. then get another lower at a different FFL if you want a pistol or SBR. Be sure to talk with the FFL before ordering the lower and nail down their transfer/sale policies regarding lowers.
FWIW, I've used Bollingers to transfer four post 10/1 lowers, no HQL needed (still require a 7-day wait, tho). JoeBobs had a deal recently on their billet lowers for $109 if you bought three....very nice deal! Although, basic Anderson lowers can be found for ~$50 from several places.
FWIW, I've used Bollingers to transfer four post 10/1 lowers, no HQL needed (still require a 7-day wait, tho). JoeBobs had a deal recently on their billet lowers for $109 if you bought three....very nice deal! Although, basic Anderson lowers can be found for ~$50 from several places.
Bald Fat Guy
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- Oct 7, 2014
- 418
Once again , have this conversation with a prospective FFL BEFORE initiating any transactions.
So let me get this straight??? Is the MSP somehow stating to the FFL in question that you cannot build an AR pistol from a post SB281 stripped lower without an HQL. I have my HQL and am just curious. Would that not dictate that the AR pistol being built would need to be on the HG roster??? This state is totally FUBAR!!!
I think it's the FFL who is confused, not MSP.
My .02
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