M&p 15 Sport. illegal in MD?

pc1256 · Mar 24, 2014

I called United gun shop in Rockville today and ask about is the M&p 15 Sport edition, they said those are no longer legal in Maryland?

I thought these were legal as cash and carry because their HBar?

Someone educate me, I'm new to firearms.

drking2 · Mar 24, 2014

Should be fine if HBAR and not named Bushmaster. Try a different shop

A1Uni · Mar 24, 2014

If the sport has an HBAR it is legal and in stock!

Trbo6gn · Mar 24, 2014

United is probably VERY cautious on gun sales after the Columbia incident.

-Z/28- · Mar 24, 2014

They are not explicitly labeled an HBAR from S&W, so some shops won't take a risk. It does have a heavy barrel profile though, so it is legal. Just have to find a shop to sell it to you.

Tactics · Mar 24, 2014

Take a look at the Windham Weaponry HBC, or save a little more for a Colt HBar.

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protegeV · Mar 24, 2014

pc1256 said:
I called United gun shop in Rockville today and ask about is the M&p 15 Sport edition, they said those are no longer legal in Maryland?

I thought these were legal as cash and carry because their HBar?

Someone educate me, I'm new to firearms.

They must have changed their minds. I almost bought one from them and several other members DID buy one from them back in January.

pc1256 · Mar 24, 2014

Thanks info, I will keep poking around.

I will looking to Windham, been hearing a lot about them.

Rapture · Mar 24, 2014

My understanding is that the M&P Sport (#811036/811037) was previously regulated and is not considered HBAR, therefore it is now banned. There are a few more threads regarding this very issue. BTW, it's an awesome rifle for the price.

spclopr8tr · Mar 24, 2014

You might find this thread useful:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=142949

Per Smith & Wesson (of course, what would they know about it?), the Sport does NOT have a heavy barrel.

This was the response when I asked S&W about heavy barrels last July. While it states the model number 811037 is MD compliant, that means prior to 1 OCT 13 it met MD requirements. It does not say it meets requirements post-1 OCT 13. The only heavy barrel models are models listed in the performance center section of their catalogue.

Dear Customer,
The only M&P's that have heavy match grade barrels are the Performance Center Models. The Sport model does not have a heavy barrel. The Maryland compliant M&P Sport is sku#: 811037.
If further assistance is required please reply accordingly.
Sincerely,
Jennie

Granted this info is now dated, and S&W "may" have changed their construction, but IMHO, email from S&W CS puts enough doubt in my mind that even if an FFL says it is heavy barrel, I'm not going to risk it. Others may not be as risk adverse as I am.

pc1256 · Mar 24, 2014

Well, I just contacted a couple of more dealers, they all say illegal

protegeV · Mar 24, 2014

strange, when I thought about buying one from united back in January they initially said NO. Then they got back to me saying they called S&W and verified it was an HBAR and good to go :thumbsup:

pc1256 · Mar 24, 2014

Sigh. I was looking forward for one of these... I called Atlantic guns too

A1Uni · Mar 24, 2014

Smith has a new sport rifle with a heavy barrel. Perfectly legal in MD.

Smith & Wesson Item # 811036

I have them. I have inspected them with the hand guards off and they are definitely a heavy barrel profile, though not a oversized "varmint or target" type. They are in fact nearly identical to the Colt HBAR barrel profile.

This rifle is essentially a M&P 15T (state compliant rifle) with no quad rails, no forward assist and no dust cover. It does not have the fixed mag or bullet button that the CA guns bear.

MSP has told us rifles do not need to be stamped HBAR to qualify. The dealer must only be able to articulate that they have confirmed by inspection that it is a heavy barrel profile.

armed ferret · Mar 24, 2014

pick something else?

pretty sure any of the IP's (engage, scott's, 2a sales, etc.) will be able to help you find something you enjoy.

armed ferret · Mar 24, 2014

A1Uniform said:
MSP has told us rifles do not need to be stamped HBAR to qualify. The dealer must only be able to articulate that they have confirmed by inspection that it is a heavy barrel profile.

Just out of curiosity, have they stated what constitutes a "heavy" profile? There's a lot of varmint-profile stuff out there, and many variants among and between. Is it basically just a non-pencil or non-govvy profile barrel?

A1Uni · Mar 24, 2014

armed ferret said:
Just out of curiosity, have they stated what constitutes a "heavy" profile? There's a lot of varmint-profile stuff out there, and many variants among and between. Is it basically just a non-pencil or non-govvy profile barrel?

To be honest, they were somewhat vague. The standard we use for comparison is the current Colt rifles that are actually stamped HBAR.

protegeV · Mar 24, 2014

A1Uniform said:
Smith has a new sport rifle with a heavy barrel. Perfectly legal in MD.

Smith & Wesson Item # 811036

I have them. I have inspected them with the hand guards off and they are definitely a heavy barrel profile, though not a oversized "varmint or target" type. They are in fact nearly identical to the Colt HBAR barrel profile.

This rifle is essentially a M&P 15T (state compliant rifle) with no quad rails, no forward assist and no dust cover. It does not have the fixed mag or bullet button that the CA guns bear.

MSP has told us rifles do not need to be stamped HBAR to qualify. The dealer must only be able to articulate that they have confirmed by inspection that it is a heavy barrel profile.

Pretty sure this is the main one in question. Its the one I almost bought.

IMBLITZVT · Mar 24, 2014

drking2 said:
Should be fine if HBAR and not named Bushmaster. Try a different shop

No AR15 style guns are named Bushmaster. There is a company called Bushmaster but they are not the gun that is banned. An HBAR AR15 clone made by the Company Bushmaster is 100% legal. The rarely seen Bushmaster Assault rifle made by some company I can't remember the name of, is banned.

drking2 · Mar 24, 2014

I stand corrected. My understanding is the current interpretation by msp is that all Bushmaster brand rifles are disallowed in the peoples republic. Even though the one in the law was from the 90's. They broadened the interpretation post 10/1. Has this changed?

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