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lax · Jan 21, 2014

Building an SBR on an 80% lower. I called and talked to the ATF about the "manufacturer" and have that squared away. Since I am listed as the manufacturer I know that's going to get a small warning on the site. What I didn't expect is I listed the model as ar15 and it says the model is unknown. Should I assume this is due to the manufacturer? Probably should call the atf back but wanted to see if anyone else has ran into this.

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John

erwos · Jan 21, 2014

If you completed this lower after 10/1, be aware that what you're doing is of dubious legality according to the current MSP interpretations, misguided as they are.

Now, that said, I have actually done a stripped 100% lower where the manufacturer apparently didn't put a model on the lower itself - yes, I think they screwed up - and I had to engrave a custom model name and caliber. The custom model name was listed on the form. It went through fine, albeit that was with a paper form 1.

IMBLITZVT · Jan 21, 2014

lax said:
Building an SBR on an 80% lower. I called and talked to the ATF about the "manufacturer" and have that squared away. Since I am listed as the manufacturer I know that's going to get a small warning on the site. What I didn't expect is I listed the model as ar15 and it says the model is unknown. Should I assume this is due to the manufacturer? Probably should call the atf back but wanted to see if anyone else has ran into this.

Thanks
John

Could it have anything to do with the fact that Colt owns "AR-15" as a trademarked name. So if you don't have a manufacturer of Colt, its not recognizing AR15? I don't have any experience with the eforms but just a guess but I doubt ATF is that smart....

Kingjamez · Jan 21, 2014

The unkown model is due to you being the manufacturer. In fact, on my approved eForm1 for 4a the ATF changed the info to "Form 1 Registration, United States", and put my trust info in 3a and 3b.

The eForm system has a database of manufacturers and their model numbers, when you make your own firearm you don't match any of those pre-defined sets, thus you get the error.

-Jim

lax · Jan 21, 2014

Thanks guys

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