wt71
Active Member
I did a search but could not find anything on this subject. Sorry if I missed something but, I am selling a XD40 with the 2 factory 12rd mags that came with it. Is it legal to sell it with those mags in MD now?
Hi cap mag question
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wt71
Active Member
Thanks for the quick reply
huesmann
n00b
Sell the gun in-state, but meet your buyer just over the PA line and give him his "free" mags.
wt71
Active Member
Thanks, that's what I'm going to do.
rwbow1969
Get Wiffit
Just don't offer for sale, transfer, manufacture or purchase a magazine with a capacity of over 10 rounds within the state of Maryland.
+1 This! It ain't worth the penalties!
- Feb 4, 2013
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I think you mean STANDARD capacity magazines.
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
He actually said what he meant. Since the staggered mags were put into pistols the mags have been referred to as high capacity mags.
I read the other thread. I see confusion ahead...call them what they are. I understand the approach. The anti's will just urge us all to use reduced capacity mags anyway.
I read the other thread. I see confusion ahead...call them what they are. I understand the approach. The anti's will just urge us all to use reduced capacity mags anyway.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
But in the minds of the unknowing, reduced capacity sounds BAD. Hi capacity sound unneeded.
The anits started with the Hi Cap mag and Assault Weapons terms to sway those who do not know any better.
If you want to keep helping the antis, go for it.
The anits started with the Hi Cap mag and Assault Weapons terms to sway those who do not know any better.
If you want to keep helping the antis, go for it.
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
Wow, 30 plus active years in the sport and I'm unknowing. Helping the anti's... Pinecone, you don't know me nor how active I have been in the firearms cause. My suggestion is reducing your level of judgemental comment until you know more about those you condenscendingly criticize..
FYI, and I am sure you know it, high capacity has always indicated any staggered magazine holding more ammunition than a single stack grip length magazine holds. After 30 plus years of these mags being called hi caps we start to play a semantics game anyone can see through. We are better off educating and proving capacity has nothing to do with criminal behavior. And everyone will understand when someone says hi-cap mag others know its over 10 round capacity. A single stack 1911 has a standard capacity of 7 (or8) rounds of 45 ACP. A Para Ordnance mag has a capacity of 13 rounds. Both standard capacity, two different animals. Sorry, that PO pistol, as many others, was built and communicated as a hi-cap gun. It is what it is. The law has recognized it as such and will be looking at round count anyway. So what we call it at this point is moot.
FYI, and I am sure you know it, high capacity has always indicated any staggered magazine holding more ammunition than a single stack grip length magazine holds. After 30 plus years of these mags being called hi caps we start to play a semantics game anyone can see through. We are better off educating and proving capacity has nothing to do with criminal behavior. And everyone will understand when someone says hi-cap mag others know its over 10 round capacity. A single stack 1911 has a standard capacity of 7 (or8) rounds of 45 ACP. A Para Ordnance mag has a capacity of 13 rounds. Both standard capacity, two different animals. Sorry, that PO pistol, as many others, was built and communicated as a hi-cap gun. It is what it is. The law has recognized it as such and will be looking at round count anyway. So what we call it at this point is moot.
marlin.357
NRA Life Member, MSI, SAF
Sport? There's yer problem right there.....
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
Wow, doesn't take long for the dog pack to show up.
Yes...sport. There is no problem. Shooting matches and competitions are shooting sports. There was even a Shooting Sports magazine published by the NRA. I got it for a few years. Not sure whether they still publish it or not. I haven't needed it for quite some time.
Yes...sport. There is no problem. Shooting matches and competitions are shooting sports. There was even a Shooting Sports magazine published by the NRA. I got it for a few years. Not sure whether they still publish it or not. I haven't needed it for quite some time.
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
You are missing the point.
The antis use the term hi cap mag to touch the emotional side of the vast majority of people WHO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT FIREARMS. And when they hear it over and over in a negative connotation, that is what they think. Right or wrong.
Using the term standard cap magazine instead, removes that negative connotation. And who can be against something that is standard?
This is similar to when the Federal "assualt weapon" ban was being pushed through. The firearms world tried to educate the masses that the firearms that were being banned weren't actually "assault weapons" as they were not full auto. What stuck in peoples' minds, were video clips of full auto being fired, so they were against these firearms, so they though the aw ban was a GOOD thing, not realized that the ban did not touch those.
You attribute WAY too much knowledge and ability to think to the vast majority of the population.
And what I was saying, if you keep using the term hi cap mag, you are UNWITTINGLY helping the antis. I was not saying you were trying to help them.
It does not matter what we did before, we need to avoid using emotionally charged terms that work against our interests.
Magnumite
Ultimate Member
I understand your explanation. A previous poster also mentioned it made a difference in the GA discussions. To what degree would be interesting to know.
I'll lend a hand on this but not to the point of playing a word game. That could be counter productive.
I'll lend a hand on this but not to the point of playing a word game. That could be counter productive.
- Feb 4, 2013
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The point is, THEY play word games to get the unknowing to buy into their arguments.
WE should use word games to defuse those tactics.
WE should use word games to defuse those tactics.
Elgan
NRA Endowment Member
Word games are just another form of mental masturbation. Call them what they are - 12 rd. mags, 30 rd. mags, 15 rd. mags, what have you.
Connotations like "low," "standard," and "high" are meaningless, and change relatively frequently from person to person and state to state.
Besides, it's not as if some liberal anti is going to be browsing this site, see that a 30 rd. mag is historically "standard" for a black rifle, and have a moment of clarity.
Connotations like "low," "standard," and "high" are meaningless, and change relatively frequently from person to person and state to state.
Besides, it's not as if some liberal anti is going to be browsing this site, see that a 30 rd. mag is historically "standard" for a black rifle, and have a moment of clarity.
Maverick0313
Retired and loving it
Hmmm.......not sure.....thinking you need to look it up in the new law though...
wt71
Active Member
- Feb 4, 2013
- 28,175
DUDE! All I did was ask a question! There is no need to attact me!
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And anyway, my post was not directed to you.
