DC Businessman arrested for unregistered ammunition

Benanov · Oct 23, 2013

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/23/miller-dc-businessman-faces-two-years-jail-unregis/

Looks like someone without sufficient connections in DC is gonna go down for a box of .40 Cal.

I don't repeat the "faces 2 years" because we all know about piling on the charges.

DC-W · Oct 23, 2013

We must never, ever let such policies take hold here. This is a travesty.

lx1x · Oct 23, 2013

Vince55 · Oct 23, 2013

kiriyama9000 said:
We must never, ever let such policies take hold here. This is a travesty.

Sounds like the Gestapo, not police.

Mr H · Oct 23, 2013

Holy crap...

This is so wrong, on so many levels...

MaxVO2 · Oct 23, 2013

Benanov said:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/23/miller-dc-businessman-faces-two-years-jail-unregis/

Looks like someone without sufficient connections in DC is gonna go down for a box of .40 Cal.

I don't repeat the "faces 2 years" because we all know about piling on the charges.

****What a disaster for this guy. Over a box of ammunition. Plenty of real criminals in that town own firearms and ammo, and do what they wish with impunity. Heck, plenty of real criminals make the laws! (Marion Barry, Charlie Rangel off the top of my head..) and seem to be above the law.

Crazy.

Mooseman · Oct 23, 2013

Wow, this can't be true. Not in America. I know that it is true ( I just read it on the internet ) but yet it is unbelievable.

Sthomas229 · Oct 23, 2013

Makes me want to stay out of DC. I guarantee you could probably find a stray spent casing or even a live round somewhere in my suv. :sad20:

Redcobra · Oct 23, 2013

I will never go into DC. I often find a used brass or shotshell in my car that has migrated either from my basement or gotten caught in my clothing at the range.
I would have to inspect my car from top to bottom every time. Right now there are two cases of shot shells in the trunk.

Does the Capitol Beltway cross into DC at any point?

lx1x · Oct 23, 2013

Redcobra said:
I will never go into DC. I often find a used brass or shotshell in my car that has migrated either from my basement or gotten caught in my clothing at the range.
I would have to inspect my car from top to bottom every time. Right now there are two cases of shot shells in the trunk.

Does the Capitol Beltway cross into DC at any point?

Yes.. a sliver on the Woodrow bridge.

Seth · Oct 23, 2013

Redcobra said:
I will never go into DC. I often find a used brass or shotshell in my car that has migrated either from my basement or gotten caught in my clothing at the range.
I would have to inspect my car from top to bottom every time. Right now there are two cases of shot shells in the trunk.

Does the Capitol Beltway cross into DC at any point?

Technically but I don't think DCPD patrolling it. I guess if Metro Transit pulls you over on that one little part then you could be in trouble but I highly doubt it.

Engine4 · Oct 23, 2013

Redcobra said:
I will never go into DC.

This! And New York!

Mr H · Oct 23, 2013

lx1x said:
Yes.. a sliver on the Woodrow bridge.

I've been told that's only at the water level, and that the bridge itself is all MD/VA

Hopefully someone can clarify that for us.

Skins_Brew · Oct 23, 2013

Redcobra said:
I will never go into DC. I often find a used brass or shotshell in my car that has migrated either from my basement or gotten caught in my clothing at the range.
I would have to inspect my car from top to bottom every time. Right now there are two cases of shot shells in the trunk.

Does the Capitol Beltway cross into DC at any point?

Yes, by the Wilson Bridge, 495 crosses into DC for a very brief moment.

I work in this dump, but never drive. I either take the train or ride my bike from Silver Spring. If I were to drive my truck, I would be violating several laws-

-fairly sure there is a 20 rd AR mag in the glove box
-probably a few spent shells in the bed/inside
-spent 12g shell on the antenna. I don't even own a 12g!

lx1x · Oct 23, 2013

mr h said:
I've been told that's only at the water level, and that the bridge itself is all MD/VA

Hopefully someone can clarify that for us.

Doesn't really matter.. only few yard of you traveling on it..

When the last time you see Dc cop waiting for traffic stop on the bridge anyways.. lol

Mr H · Oct 23, 2013

lx1x said:
Doesn't really matter.. only few yard of you traveling on it..
When the last time you see Dc cop waiting for traffic stop on the bridge anyways.. lol

Zackly... so brief as to be nonexistent, but someone might be interested in the technical aspect.

ed bernay · Oct 23, 2013

sounds like a good opportunity to challenge registration for possession in DC...criminal charge of possession for ammo against what appears to be an otherwise law abiding citizen so he has standing, gestapo tactics of the police, violation of equal protection under the law...Gregory not charged but this guy is. It's also a simple case as it only involves a box of ammo. Doesn't get better than this in my view for having a sympathetic defendant. I would argue that SCOTUS would rather hear a case like this than a carry case to establish scrutiny.

jonnyl · Oct 23, 2013

A couple years ago in Annapolis when they were discussing some mandatory penalties in connection with some gun possession charges that would apply to an accidental transport error the guy yakking (forget who he was, maybe the State's Attorney for Baltimore) tried to allay fears of law abiding citizens getting swept up in this kind of thing by saying that "this is where our discretion comes in", and that "they had no interest in prosecuting an otherwise law abiding citizen who made an honest mistake".

Would we trust Maryland more than DC??

I'm really sorry for this guy, but this is the kind of case that outrages regular non-gun folks.

hylomar · Oct 23, 2013

Exactly one month earlier, Mr. Witaschek allowed members of the “Gun Recovery Unit” access to search without a warrant because he thought he had nothing to hide.

After about an hour and a half, the police found one box of Winchester .40 caliber ammunition, one gun-cleaning kit (fully legal) and a Civil War-era Colt antique revolver that Mr. Witaschek kept on his office desk. The police seized the Colt even though antique firearms are legal and do not have to be registered.

One more reason (if you need more) to not let the police search your house without a warrant.

jpo183 · Oct 23, 2013

See here is the problem. And I know one of our resident LE will come in and yell "cop bashing"

The cops should have NOT OBEYED THIS ORDER.

If we cant trust you to not obey something like this and treat a citizen in the way they did then you are the enemy. Period.

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