54rndball
take to the hills
Are these legal in MD? This is a .45 ACP carbine, the civilian model I mean. Might be nice to have.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87zn84UxyBg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87zn84UxyBg
Kriss Vector cabine
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Has a folding stock, but no flash hider (so far as I can tell).
OAL > 29".
Sounds legal to me.
(Forgot to mention: I see tons of these for sale as used. I would investigate carefully before buying one.)
Has a folding stock, but no flash hider (so far as I can tell).
OAL > 29".
Sounds legal to me.
(Forgot to mention: I see tons of these for sale as used. I would investigate carefully before buying one.)
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
There's some language in SB-281 that adds to the already banned assault pistol class any pistol with a magazine forward of the pistol grip.
That said, since it's a shoulder fired weapon, it should be fine as long as it meets the length requirement and is not banned by name specifically.
So, it needs at least a 16 inch barrel or NFA SBR 200 tax stamp, and needs to be over the minimum length required, and must be MEANT TO BE FIRED FROM THE SHOULDER.
That said, since it's a shoulder fired weapon, it should be fine as long as it meets the length requirement and is not banned by name specifically.
So, it needs at least a 16 inch barrel or NFA SBR 200 tax stamp, and needs to be over the minimum length required, and must be MEANT TO BE FIRED FROM THE SHOULDER.
amoebicmagician
Samopal Goblin
that said, I'm not impressed with the weapon. That tilting bolt arrangement seems like it'd be easy to have fouled up.
I've hunted hogs with pistol caliber carbines for years, and .40s the way to go for sure.
I've hunted hogs with pistol caliber carbines for years, and .40s the way to go for sure.
tc617
USN Sub Vet
As long as that foot-long fake can is permaently attached, yes.
Dim. / Wt Length open: 34.8"
Length folded: 26.5"
Height: 6.8"
Weight (unloaded w/o accessories): 5.8 lbs
Barrel: (16:1 twist) 16"
Dim. / Wt Length open: 34.8"
Length folded: 26.5"
Height: 6.8"
Weight (unloaded w/o accessories): 5.8 lbs
Barrel: (16:1 twist) 16"
No, there's not. That language was omitted in the final bill.
The factory Kriss Vector SBR does not meet OAL requirements as it is less than 29".
- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,247
I'd consider the H&K USC as well as the Kriss
http://www.centerfireguns.com/heckler-koch-usc-carbine-rifle-45-blk-701445a5.html?source=slickguns
http://www.centerfireguns.com/heckler-koch-usc-carbine-rifle-45-blk-701445a5.html?source=slickguns
The USC is going out of production, if it hasn't already. Nice gun for a UMP conversion, though.
tc617
USN Sub Vet
Just for clarification, the OP did not ask about the Kris Vector SBR that has a 24.3" OAL.
He asked about the Kris Vector Carbine that is 34.8" OAL.
The carbine version meets the OAL measurement and should be allowed in Maryland.
He asked about the Kris Vector Carbine that is 34.8" OAL.
The carbine version meets the OAL measurement and should be allowed in Maryland.
mbz300sdl
Gone living free now!!!
Had one it was ok I'd say get a Tommy gun but you can't so if you want a reliable 45 carbine get it
54rndball
take to the hills
- Dec 27, 2012
- 30,247
I thought I read that somewhere.
Are they replacing it with something new?
I used to think it looked dumb but now I like it. Same with the Storm carbine. I don't know what it is but pistol caliber carbines just feel really handy.
My problem with the USC is that it's in .45ACP. You can do the 9mm conversion, apparently, but the price starts ramping up real quick at that point.
I doubt they're replacing it with anything in particular.
I doubt they're replacing it with anything in particular.
I almost bought a Kriss Vector Carbine when they first came out. Manufactured down in Virginia Beach. Cool looking set-up but look at the drawbacks--
1) Expensive
2) Rifle set-up occupies both hands but shoots a slow, fat round that is not good for distance
3) Proprietary set-up so it's not easy to find quick parts or repair
4) Can't carry the Kriss in a backpack when going to the range--so men departing their house and returning the same day with a case or duffle bag can get nosy neighbors talking
My suggestion: Buy a Glock 21 and the 28-round .45 cal mags manufactured by Kriss for their carbines. Here's why:
1) Sweeping your home or crowded property with a Glock 21 is much easier than with a rifle
2) Glock 21 travels in your backpack, so very little attention from nosy neighbors on range day
3) With a 13-round mag, the Glock 21 is a holster weapon, even for concealed carry.... and with the 28-round Kriss mag it becomes a formidable Home Defense/Close Quarter Combat weapon--two completely different set-ups from the SAME firearm
4) Kriss makes their extended mags from factory Glock-21 mags and they are super-reliable--unlike the useless, jam-prone .45 cal Korean mags found at gun shows.
Glock manufactures a 30-round mag in 9mm but Glock does NOT manufacture an extended mag in .45 cal for civilians, meaning the 28-round mag made by Kriss using the factory Glock 21 mag parts is your only good option for high capacity.
1) Expensive
2) Rifle set-up occupies both hands but shoots a slow, fat round that is not good for distance
3) Proprietary set-up so it's not easy to find quick parts or repair
4) Can't carry the Kriss in a backpack when going to the range--so men departing their house and returning the same day with a case or duffle bag can get nosy neighbors talking
My suggestion: Buy a Glock 21 and the 28-round .45 cal mags manufactured by Kriss for their carbines. Here's why:
1) Sweeping your home or crowded property with a Glock 21 is much easier than with a rifle
2) Glock 21 travels in your backpack, so very little attention from nosy neighbors on range day
3) With a 13-round mag, the Glock 21 is a holster weapon, even for concealed carry.... and with the 28-round Kriss mag it becomes a formidable Home Defense/Close Quarter Combat weapon--two completely different set-ups from the SAME firearm
4) Kriss makes their extended mags from factory Glock-21 mags and they are super-reliable--unlike the useless, jam-prone .45 cal Korean mags found at gun shows.
Glock manufactures a 30-round mag in 9mm but Glock does NOT manufacture an extended mag in .45 cal for civilians, meaning the 28-round mag made by Kriss using the factory Glock 21 mag parts is your only good option for high capacity.
l730dc
Active Member
My buddies dad has one.. started jamming after about 200 rounds so we put it away
Slimjim
Ultimate Member
- Mar 6, 2007
- 3,074
Did you clean it?
I have the pistol version, going to SBR it sometime, its a lot of fun to shoot.
I have one; my business partner has one; the business has a full auto model; we have sold many semis.
They are definitely different, but they are a blast to shoot, especially with 30 round Glock style mags. We have found them to be very reliable if properly maintainerd, like any firearm.
I have the semi and the full auto versions and both are a blast.
They are legal and readily available. Want one? Give us a call.
They are definitely different, but they are a blast to shoot, especially with 30 round Glock style mags. We have found them to be very reliable if properly maintainerd, like any firearm.
I have the semi and the full auto versions and both are a blast.
They are legal and readily available. Want one? Give us a call.
l730dc
Active Member
It wasnt mine so no.. it was new it might just need to break in..
xdwaiter
Prodigy
Id get the hk and do an ump conversion the only thing is all the mags for it I could find were expensive as f*ck
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