Kharn
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Peruta is one of them, three cases were heard before the same panel on the same day back in December (I think?)/
Scotus Woollard Amicus Briefs
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Stage at 100 yds over miles then... Point proven either way...
Young is one of my cases. Its not getting heard for a long time. Its somewhat complicated so I doubt that it will get heard for orals until a carry case gets before the supreme court. I think you mean Baker which is one I did with my buddy Rick. It had already had oral arguments last December.
Thanks. I knew it was one of the Hawaii cases but not sure which one.
krucam
Ultimate Member
Just received from Alan Gura the Woollard Reply Brief.
He DOES bring up the instance of the now late Mr Abbott. Calls out MD's 93% acceptance number which excluded our 2012 apps. The brief pulls no punches at all. A Great read.
He was also kind enough to provide the Lane Reply as well...
He DOES bring up the instance of the now late Mr Abbott. Calls out MD's 93% acceptance number which excluded our 2012 apps. The brief pulls no punches at all. A Great read.
He was also kind enough to provide the Lane Reply as well...
I 
the last setence.
What a way to close
the last setence. What a way to close
danb
dont be a dumbass
i like how he closes with the denial of the applicants in 2012. But then, I would.
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Is it just me, or does anyone else get a sense that... "all is not lost, after all..." when you read from Gura?
BigSteve57
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Is it just me, or does anyone else get a sense that... "all is not lost, after all..." when you read from Gura?
I get the absolute opposite feeling. Gura makes it so plainly obvious what the facts are and reasons so clearly that it OUGHT to be so simple a child would get it. OK so maybe one lower court might get it wrong. Once. But that's not the case.
I am led to believe that those sitting on the bench all the way to the Supreme court can either not read plain English and/or do not comprehend the law. Or simply don't care about it. I find that thought extremely depressing.
pilotguy299
Ultimate Member
Very well written.
I wonder if there are firm and verifiable numbers on how many people applied after Legg's decision, and how many were turned down after the 4th circuit's reversal?
It is too bad that there is no way to estimate how many people didn't even try to apply pre-wollard, because they thought it was a futile and expensive exercise.
I wonder if there are firm and verifiable numbers on how many people applied after Legg's decision, and how many were turned down after the 4th circuit's reversal?
It is too bad that there is no way to estimate how many people didn't even try to apply pre-wollard, because they thought it was a futile and expensive exercise.
jrosenberger
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My favorite quote was "Opposing this petition by claiming that recreational shooting activities and long guns remain legal is akin to defending a book ban against First Amendment challenge by averring that flag burning and nude dancing are not impacted. Petitioners appreciate that the State has not (yet) violated their rights in some ways, but seek redress for the substantial core violation that is, in fact, ongoing."
JPG
Ultimate Member
Because they mention what the State says about "long gun carry" OK and if the court says carry outside the home is allowed, would that decision allow Long Gun Carry everywhere?
I like these quotes: Ray Woollard is a
much better judge of his particular “need” for self protection
than are Maryland’s legislature, the police
officials who deprived him of his rights, and their
“experts” who believe that people everywhere and
always are better off defenseless.
Respondents claim that the lower court “put the State to its burden,
and determined that the State had satisfied that
burden.” BIO 14. Some burden: “t is the legislature’s
job, not ours, to weigh conflicting evidence and
make policy judgments.” App. 38a (citation omitted).
Very hard-hitting brief. Let's hope it's enough. Good thing is there will be plenty of 2A cases seeking cert this term. It'll be tougher for the court to simply pass on all of them(but certainly possible).
much better judge of his particular “need” for self protection
than are Maryland’s legislature, the police
officials who deprived him of his rights, and their
“experts” who believe that people everywhere and
always are better off defenseless.
Respondents claim that the lower court “put the State to its burden,
and determined that the State had satisfied that
burden.” BIO 14. Some burden: “t is the legislature’s
job, not ours, to weigh conflicting evidence and
make policy judgments.” App. 38a (citation omitted).
Very hard-hitting brief. Let's hope it's enough. Good thing is there will be plenty of 2A cases seeking cert this term. It'll be tougher for the court to simply pass on all of them(but certainly possible).
Maestro Pistolero
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- Mar 20, 2012
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Gloves OFF! 
Given the state of chaos in 2A litigation, if this doesn't do it, I don't know what would.
Given the state of chaos in 2A litigation, if this doesn't do it, I don't know what would.
His documents are readable and enjoyable (to us), but have to piss off the bad guys. Gura and party put it so simply that a child could understand. I like how he points out the lies and exaggerations Md has been spouting.
But none of these activities could be described as
“carrying [arms] for a particular purpose – confrontation,”
Heller, 554 U.S. at 584, and none directly
manifest the Second Amendment’s “core lawful purpose
of self-defense.” Id. at 630.
But none of these activities could be described as
“carrying [arms] for a particular purpose – confrontation,”
Heller, 554 U.S. at 584, and none directly
manifest the Second Amendment’s “core lawful purpose
of self-defense.” Id. at 630.
"Similarly, it defies credulity to suppose that the
level of scrutiny afforded below is consistent with
that becoming a fundamental right. Respondents
claim that the lower court “put the State to its burden,
and determined that the State had satisfied that
burden.” BIO 14. Some burden: “t is the legislature’s
job, not ours, to weigh conflicting evidence and
make policy judgments.” App. 38a (citation omitted)."
It'd be like having a 4th Amendment, but allowing the police doing the search to determine if it's reasonable or not.
level of scrutiny afforded below is consistent with
that becoming a fundamental right. Respondents
claim that the lower court “put the State to its burden,
and determined that the State had satisfied that
burden.” BIO 14. Some burden: “t is the legislature’s
job, not ours, to weigh conflicting evidence and
make policy judgments.” App. 38a (citation omitted)."
It'd be like having a 4th Amendment, but allowing the police doing the search to determine if it's reasonable or not.
pilotguy299
Ultimate Member
How does this:
http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=2729019&postcount=112
And the 77r debacle, not show that the MDSP can not make a good decision?
Wouldn't other examples of grossly poor decisionmaking help in questioning their ability to properly decide g&s?
http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=2729019&postcount=112
And the 77r debacle, not show that the MDSP can not make a good decision?
Wouldn't other examples of grossly poor decisionmaking help in questioning their ability to properly decide g&s?
kcbrown
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- Jun 16, 2012
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You are discounting a third, and most likely, case: those sitting on the bench all the way to the Supreme Court are opposed to the 2nd Amendment at a fundamental level. They view the power of the state as being more important than the fundamental rights of the citizenry, particular when the right in question is one that fundamentally revolves around the terrifying responsibility of life and death that is central to the right to keep and bear arms.
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