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Old April 25th, 2013, 07:57 AM   #1
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80% Receivers and Rocket Hub

So while wasting time at work, I ran into this website called Rocket Hub. Apparently this is a place you can use to try and take your buisness to the next level. I know... why is this thread in The Depot... well they have buisnesses that are providing 80% receivers at what looks to be awesome prices. Here is one place I found most interesting.

http://www.rockethub.com/projects/24...10-rudius-1911

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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:06 AM   #2
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Did you buy a jig set?

And does our new law affect the sale of AR10 stripped lowers or just the AR15s?

I have always wanted to build an AR10 but need to focus the money on things which will be restricted in OCT.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:13 AM   #3
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My concern would be to send this guy money and then never see it again. Is there any confirmation that he's actually started shipping 80% receivers. Legally, he's touting this as an 'Investment' not a purchase. If you invest, all of your money is at risk, should the venture fall through. $30 for an AR-15 and a free jig set. It sounds 'too good to be true' and we all know what that means. I wouldn't touch this one with a 10 foot pole.


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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:18 AM   #4
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This is were I see a problem. Unless the 2nd cnc machine has a 60" or larger X axis travel. they will not have the room for the vises needed to do all 8 operations. and even if they did they would only be able to make 1 model at a time ( another words only ar 15 lowers, but couldn't do the 1911 or ar10s at the same time). Also a machine with that type of travel would not fit in a small shop. As far as making a profit ? there isn't much if any fudge room in a billet 80% lower. Also if they only have the 2 machines what will they use to produce the jigs ??
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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:23 AM   #5
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I didn't see the pricing till now. Id stay far far away from this !!! the cost of the peice of the alluminum allone is about $30.00 a blank at 6061. so your telling me there going to spend thousands on tooling and fixtures and run time and only charge you $5.00 to make it ??? sounds like a scam !
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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:29 AM   #6
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I didn't buy into it. I did read some people were asking for some ATF letter and others were asking for more pictures of his prototype stuff. One even said a picture was of someone else's receivers.

How I got to this site was for another builder doing the same. Just thought I would link this guys stuff.


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Old April 25th, 2013, 08:41 AM   #7
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Aluminum is roughly $2/# in quantity. We buy a lot of it here at work for products. I don't have a receiver here in front of me but iirc its about a 1x6x8 envelope. Thats 4.7# of bar stock = $10. Pretty slim margin there for a LOT of machining. If from a 7075 forging, those runs close to $20 in quantity (unless you're Colt and have HUGE quantities.) I still have a hard time believing you would want to do the machining ops on those for just $5. ($100 for four 80% lowers = $25ea)

Sounds like a scam.


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There was another that was charging $65 per receiver, would that be more along the lines of what to expect?


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Old April 25th, 2013, 12:43 PM   #9
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Does rocket hub allow for recourse if failire to provide services? Some type of insurance?

At $55 for an AR10 and jig.... It is a gamble.

Question still remains, are AR10 lowers to be banned?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 12:48 PM   #10
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Does rocket hub allow for recourse if failire to provide services? Some type of insurance?

At $55 for an AR10 and jig.... It is a gamble.

Question still remains, are AR10 lowers to be banned?
Not by name, but any AR10 rifle will need to abide by the copycat feature test.


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Old April 25th, 2013, 12:54 PM   #11
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So good time to scoop up a few recievers in the AR10 variant?
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Old April 25th, 2013, 01:12 PM   #12
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Does rocket hub allow for recourse if failire to provide services? Some type of insurance?

At $55 for an AR10 and jig.... It is a gamble.

Question still remains, are AR10 lowers to be banned?
Really why would that be in question?


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So good time to scoop up a few recievers in the AR10 variant?
They'll still be freely available after 10/1, but if you want to build a rifle that doesn't pass the copycat test then you may want to finish that before 10/1 so that it is grandfathered.


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There was a similar thread to this a couple months ago.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=105384

Looks like a different group on rocket hub was doing lowers. A few of us were contemplating getting on-board - not sure if anyone actually did or not...


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There was a similar thread to this a couple months ago.
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=105384

Looks like a different group on rocket hub was doing lowers. A few of us were contemplating getting on-board - not sure if anyone actually did or not...
I can never get the search feature on here to bring up anything. Sorry for the duplicate posting.


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Old April 25th, 2013, 02:57 PM   #16
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No one reported receiving a lower from the other listing. Seems pretty inexpensive, < $100 for all three.


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Perhaps by setting it so low, say break even, they bank on the orders to be voluminous. That money going beyond 100% is profit... they are already at 120+% when I clicked the link earlier. There is a lot of time to still fulfill their crowdfunding....
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I can never get the search feature on here to bring up anything. Sorry for the duplicate posting.
It's not a dupe.

Seems there are 2 different groups doing pretty much the same thing...


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Here is a legit 80% Lower Start Up using Rocket Hub.


http://www.rockethub.com/projects/22...escription-tab
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Here is a legit 80% Lower Start Up using Rocket Hub.


http://www.rockethub.com/projects/22...escription-tab
That was the original one that drew me to rocket hub. I searched to see what others were selling 80% receivers and that's how I found three link I posted. I've been on the fence about getting an 80%, but haven't jumped yet.


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