Check out this new fully auto .45

Redneck · Apr 8, 2007

Skip through the dumb parts, but check out this awesome new fully auto. I really want one.

For some laughs watch the girl get set back a few feet when she blasts the H&K on fully auto :lol:

http://www.transformationaldefenseindustries.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7&Itemid=9

novus collectus · Apr 8, 2007

I prefer the classic full auto belt fed 1911A1

navycrna · Apr 8, 2007

they featured the new .45 on futureweapons on the discovery channel just a couple weeks ago :party29:

Redneck · Apr 8, 2007

I love that show! The new one looks awesome with that gernade launcher :rockon:

Falkus · Apr 8, 2007

wow, I would love to that that, but that would have cost me a alot of money ...

Simon Yu · Apr 8, 2007

Redneck17 said:
Skip through the dumb parts, but check out this awesome new fully auto. I really want one.

For some laughs watch the girl get set back a few feet when she blasts the H&K on fully auto

http://www.transformationaldefenseindustries.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7&Itemid=9

I poked through their FAQ a bit. Two parts near the bottom caught my eye. First, they're looking at using the technology in a .50 weapon

Second, they're also looking at a shotgun version too. Just need a 26 inch barrel version for skeet and trap . . .

Boxcab · Apr 9, 2007

Nice concept....

Watch the side by side video and you can see both shooters "lean" into the Kris alot more the the HK. A bit biased...

I wonder how reliable the system is? It seems that the guide rails for the part of the bolt that slides/rotates downward will take alot of abuse and provide a limited life for the gun. Time will tell.

-Boxcab

RobMoore · Apr 9, 2007

A few things myself and some of my coworkers noted when viewing the video and their brochure.

1. They seem to think firing 6000 without a "major" malfuntion is a selling point. Talk to me when you get to 60000.

2. They don't list important things for us to know, like:
Weight, Barrel length, Muzzle velocity using specific standard .45acp rounds, ect

3. They don't show an emergency reload. As a customer, I want to know if this thing is as easy to reload as an MP5, or if its a bitch and a half.

4. The standard magazine they show only holds 13 rounds. Will they offer a double stack magazine for a capacity of 20+ rounds without having 8 inches of mag hanging below the gun.

5. Their whole demonstration is at close range. I want to know this weapon's 50-100 yard capability. Part of the reason to carry an SMG is to extend your capabilities beyond a standard pistol.

6. Is it easily dissasembled without tools?

smores · Apr 9, 2007

It looks like it may use Glock magazines, based on the see-through diagrams. The lips of the magazine, and placement of the notch for the mag catch, as well as the design and placement of the mag catch all resemble the Glock design. I know there are 13-rd .45 cal mags for the Glock 21.

However, there are no hi-cap Glock .45 mags that I know of.... so it might be a proprietary design.

Redneck · Apr 11, 2007

Heres a little more info i found on it

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg96-e.htm

JeepDriver · Apr 11, 2007

It's not really all that impressive of a weapon to me.

I'd prefer to have the UMP. And the UMP does not rock back that hard. I've shot a 45 UMP and it can easily be contorled on full auto. They were very biased in that regard.

And with the current trend of going to the 5.56mm round, why take the time to develope a new sub gun?

More and more LE agencys are going to the AR platform, while there are still agency's out there using the MP5 and UMP, if they switch to something new, it would mosy likely be a AR or G36.

I had a Federal Protective Service guy at work last week with his new Colt 11.5" AR with Burst trigger (not shooting it, just showing it to me) He was replacing his MP5 (which he said he misses).

-Mil-Surp-Phreak- · Apr 11, 2007

Making this in 3dsMax7 for Counterstrike Source. Just a little preview.

RobMoore · Apr 11, 2007

JeepDriver said:
And with the current trend of going to the 5.56mm round, why take the time to develope a new sub gun?

I agree about sub guns being shoved aside, but I think the trend is actually going back to something more powerful than the 5.56. This could be the 6.8, but I'd personally like to see (and push for) the 7.62

Redneck · Apr 11, 2007

The video noted that they would make this weapon in different calibers. They just built and demonstrated the .45 as a preview.

navycrna · Apr 11, 2007

RobMoore said:
I agree about sub guns being shoved aside, but I think the trend is actually going back to something more powerful than the 5.56. This could be the 6.8, but I'd personally like to see (and push for) the 7.62

I agree I would like a rifle with a little more stopping power but Im kinda holding out to see wich new round rises to the top. In addition to the 6.8 SPC there is also the 6.5 Grendal. I would like to see which one becomes the standard before I go all in. (Although I am excited about building a 6.8 from the ground up. :gun7:

Redneck · Apr 11, 2007

My next AR will be the Stag 6.8 without a doubt

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