Nope. I am going to update the FAQ today to encompass the recent MSP bulletin.
SB281 Guns FAQ
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Updated for the latest debacle.
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Yeah, you're best off going with a 556xi, which is even more different from the 550/551. I'll update the FAQ.
maddogthegreatest
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Very cool
True.
azmp1
Member
^Most definitely true.
A question on one of the of the FAQ's.
It's stated in the FAQ's that 22lr long guns are not considered copycats, aside from few unique cases, and therefore are ok, my question is, does that apply to 22lr AKs as well? I was under the impression that all AKs and copys were banned, including 22lr variants... Is it not the case?
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A question on one of the of the FAQ's.
It's stated in the FAQ's that 22lr long guns are not considered copycats, aside from few unique cases, and therefore are ok, my question is, does that apply to 22lr AKs as well? I was under the impression that all AKs and copys were banned, including 22lr variants... Is it not the case?
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Ugh. That is a hard question, and it's essentially unanswerable.
22lr AKs are in a weird place in terms of the law, and entirely up to MSP interpretation, because there's no definition of what an AK actually is. What "makes" an AK? Is it the general AK action? Is it using a receiver generally associated with AKs? The AG and MSP have never given a good answer, so you wind up with a very broad application of the law in order to avoid trouble.
Further, not all 22lr AKs are the same... the WASR-22 and M10-22 are very, very similar to real AKs (albeit with direct blowback actions). The GSG and ATI AK-alikes, less so. (Think of as the difference between a CMMG 22lr AR and a S&W M&P15-22.)
My gut feeling is that you're probably OK with the GSG or ATI AK-alikes, but may be pushing it with the WASR-22 or M10-22.
22lr AKs are in a weird place in terms of the law, and entirely up to MSP interpretation, because there's no definition of what an AK actually is. What "makes" an AK? Is it the general AK action? Is it using a receiver generally associated with AKs? The AG and MSP have never given a good answer, so you wind up with a very broad application of the law in order to avoid trouble.
Further, not all 22lr AKs are the same... the WASR-22 and M10-22 are very, very similar to real AKs (albeit with direct blowback actions). The GSG and ATI AK-alikes, less so. (Think of as the difference between a CMMG 22lr AR and a S&W M&P15-22.)
My gut feeling is that you're probably OK with the GSG or ATI AK-alikes, but may be pushing it with the WASR-22 or M10-22.
azmp1
Member
Thanks, good explanation. I can certainly agree on GSG/ATI guns, aside from looking like an AK, they're pretty much a completely different gun in terms of mechanics.
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md123
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- Jul 29, 2011
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Forgive me...this has been debated 100x but I just had a storefront industry partner tell me the sig 556r is banned as an ak clone (scar in all formats too) by MSP. I'm pretty sure that's wrong but I guess MSP's opinion means a lot more than mine. Not named in sb281 or sharing any AK parts- I guess they are making shit up as they go. As long as configured properly , I thought the scar should be gtg.
The IP is wrong, and it is really that simple. The 556R has zero parts commonality with an AK, and has several key design differences.
Purchase from another FFL who actually knows the law
azmp1
Member
556r takes AK Mags that's about it.
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Updated for:
1. 2A's information about HBARs
2. EA's information about SBRs/SBSs being ALGs
1. 2A's information about HBARs
2. EA's information about SBRs/SBSs being ALGs
cap6888
Ultimate Member
Thanks for the continuing updates!
