My new favorite C&R

Abulg1972 · Jul 3, 2014

Picked up this Ortgies in 32 Auto on Tuesday for $225. Took it to the range today. By far my most accurate pistol. I love this lady shooter. 30 feet with factory.

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MilsurpDan · Jul 3, 2014

Looks great. For some reason I feel really drawn to .32 autos despite them being considered a pip-squeak of a cartridge compared to other rounds. I've thought about getting an ortgies but it's not very high on my list right now

Alphabrew · Jul 3, 2014

Wow, I'll have to take mine the range soon. Mine is the very first semi auto pistol I ever shot. It belonged to my dad back then.

Boom Boom · Jul 3, 2014

MilsurpDan said:
I've thought about getting an ortgies but it's not very high on my list right now

Get one sooner rather than later if you remain interested. Prices on them have gone up quite a bit over the past 24 months. Seems like collectors no longer consider them the ugly stepchild.

dreadpirate · Jul 4, 2014

I have one. A lot of folks don't like them. I have never shot mine because of a bad firing pin. Got a new one from Numerich a while back and will try it out soon.

dreadpirate · Jul 4, 2014

Did you know you can canvert it to 380 just by getting a new barrel? Trick is to find one.

dreadpirate · Jul 4, 2014

Boom Boom said:
Get one sooner rather than later if you remain interested. Prices on them have gone up quite a bit over the past 24 months. Seems like collectors no longer consider them the ugly stepchild.

Glad to hear that - because that's been my impression as well.

mgbill · Jul 4, 2014

Ortgies information

Thought I'd post these two links which contain some pretty good information on these interesting pistols.

http://www.guns.com/2012/12/11/the-ortgies-pistol-of-bananafish-and-dead-nazis/

http://ortgies.net/index.htm

Mark75H · Jul 4, 2014

Yeah the .380 barrels are pretty rare, as are the complete .380's.

The .32's were renound in their day as a championship grade pistol.

The .25's don't have anything on their bigger brothers

My improved decription for reassembly is on another thread about them

Alphabrew · Jul 4, 2014

dreadpirate said:
Did you know you can canvert it to 380 just by getting a new barrel? Trick is to find one.

Did not know this!

j8064 · Jul 4, 2014

That's a nice find. :thumbsup:

An Ortgies in .32 has been on my short list for quite a while.
One of these days...

Oldcarjunkie · Jul 4, 2014

nice litttle pea shooter

dreadpirate · Jul 4, 2014

Alphabrew said:
Did not know this!

The barrel on the Ortgies can be removed by twisting it 90 degrees. It has a T-shaped double lug on the bottom which rotates into slots in the frame. This design feature allowed easy conversion from 7.65mm to 9mm by swapping out the barrels. Since the magazines (like those of the 1910 FN Browning) were designed to take either cartridge, no other change was necessary. There is no evidence that Ortgies & Co. ever made or sold 9mm barrels, though Deutsche Werke certainly did.

http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Ortgies/ortgies.html

You can put 32 or 380 in the mag - try it (but don't chamber the 380!)

Mark75H · Jul 4, 2014

An Ortgies .380 sold on GB tonight for $650 (the reserve) ... not a real reflection of an auction, the second bidder stopped at $550, the third at $455

Boom Boom · Jul 4, 2014

dreadpirate said:
I have one. A lot of folks don't like them. I have never shot mine because of a bad firing pin. Got a new one from Numerich a while back and will try it out soon.

Mine is a .32 and came with a .25 firing pin that Bubba tried to install. The .25 pin is way too long. By some miracle, Bubba didn't otherwise damage the pistol. I got a replacement pin from Numrich but it was too long by about 0.05". Be prepared to do some careful filing.

dreadpirate said:
Did you know you can canvert it to 380 just by getting a new barrel? Trick is to find one.

Damn you! Now I need to find me a .380 barrel.

somd_mustangs · Jul 4, 2014

Mark75H said:
An Ortgies .380 sold on GB tonight for $650 (the reserve) ... not a real reflection of an auction, the second bidder stopped at $550, the third at $455

True auction action - $880 final from last week. It was pretty nice condition with two correct mags ... basically 4 guys duking it out over the course of the auction. The winner of this one was also bidding for a while on the one that ended tonight...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=423728591

Alphabrew · Jul 5, 2014

They also made .22 rifles, as we recently learned from CasualObserver...

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=153913&highlight=Ortgies

Abulg1972 · Jul 5, 2014

The only issue with this pistol, as I learned yesterday while thoroughly cleaning it, is that, in spite of a representation otherwise during the bidding process, one of the grips is completely buggered. The wood is broken and someone tried to affix it to the frame with hot glue or something similar. I am the idiot who didn't check when I got the pistol but I did specifically ask this question. To his credit, the seller did offer to take it back but I like the pistol too much after shooting it and still think I came out ahead at $225. I found a well-recommended place that sells reproductions that I'm going to buy and I will just be on the lookout for a true replacement (good luck to me).

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mgbill · Jul 5, 2014

somd_mustangs said:
True auction action - $880 final from last week. It was pretty nice condition with two correct mags ... basically 4 guys duking it out over the course of the auction. The winner of this one was also bidding for a while on the one that ended tonight...

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=423728591

This one surprised me with the price level. The grips are a problem - one is split in two and they seem to be held together with brass pins. Big detraction. And, if you look closely, there seems to be some pitting on the slide. I suspect the big driver in this auction was the two correct magazines. Those can be really hard to come by. I have two of the .380 models, neither of which have the correct magazine...but one is the super-rare "button safety" version. Yes, yes, I know - pictures will be coming!

smdub · Jul 5, 2014

All this talk of .32: Any love for the Astra constable(?) in 7.65? Little PPK looking thing. My grandfather had one that he must have bought, shot once, then put away. My dad has it now and its in as-new condition.

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