14.5 Inch heavy barrel upper

bshedwick · Nov 30, 2015

I already have an 18 Inch SPR style upper for my AR, and I was thinking about getting an upper that was shorter and a little lighter.

Has anyone ever seen a pinned and welded 14.5 inch Heavy Barrel Upper?

Tconfo · Nov 30, 2015

I found that with the kmr style rail, it doesn't really matter how heavy the barrel is. The upper will still be light

bshedwick · Nov 30, 2015

I'm just looking to find some manufacturer that actually sells a MD Legal HBAR 14.5 upper. Or even just the barrel so I can build the rest myself

outrider58 · Nov 30, 2015

I built my own. The brake holds my suppressor.

offroaD · Nov 30, 2015

It's not an HBAR, but it is 14.5" none the less. So, sort of?

offroaD · Nov 30, 2015

outrider58 said:
I built my own. The brake holds my suppressor.

I see we are browsing at the same time.

Boss94 · Nov 30, 2015

I have at least 2 .

Overboost44 · Nov 30, 2015

Got my WOA HBAR 14.5" barrel from Engage. It is threaded and ready to accept your attachment.

If you want mine, I would like to exchange it for a fluted barrel. Never been attached to a gun yet. PM if interested. If not, call Engage.

bshedwick · Dec 1, 2015

Overboost44 said:
Got my WOA HBAR 14.5" barrel from Engage. It is threaded and ready to accept your attachment.

If you want mine, I would like to exchange it for a fluted barrel. Never been attached to a gun yet. PM if interested. If not, call Engage.

Do you know if Engage will pin and weld a muzzle device to it?

aquaman · Dec 1, 2015

easy. socom profile m4 barrel

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Standard-14-5-M4-SOCOM-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-m4-14socom.htm

add pin & weld option

outrider58 · Dec 1, 2015

bshedwick said:
Do you know if Engage will pin and weld a muzzle device to it?

Absolutely. You'll need to choose a gas block and fore end/rail to be sure which barrel but to go with as they'll need to be on before the pinning and welding. I strongly suggest you go with an SLR adjustable GB.

Pinecone · Dec 1, 2015

aquaman said:
easy. socom profile m4 barrel

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Standard-14-5-M4-SOCOM-Upper-Receiver-p/bcm-urg-m4-14socom.htm

add pin & weld option

The SOCOM M4 profile is a mid-weight profile barrel for the M4A1 Carbine.

Will work for you, but not for subjects of the Peoples Republic of MD.

bshedwick · Dec 1, 2015

Pinecone said:
Will work for you, but not for subjects of the Peoples Republic of MD.

aquaman · Dec 1, 2015

Pinecone said:
Will work for you, but not for subjects of the Peoples Republic of MD.

. the definition of hbar is doesn't reduce in diameter under the handguards. its gtg, dont spread bad info

dontpanic · Dec 1, 2015

aquaman said:
. the definition of hbar is doesn't reduce in diameter under the handguards. its gtg, dont spread bad info

The definition is stamped or advertised as an HBAR, by the manufacturer. That is not a HBAR.

But it is fine for MD residents to put on thier preban lowers.

Kman · Dec 1, 2015

I thought PSA had pinned HBAR 14.7" in the past. Not sure about now.

Hawkeye · Dec 1, 2015

aquaman said:
. the definition of hbar is doesn't reduce in diameter under the handguards. its gtg, dont spread bad info

dontpanic said:
The definition is stamped or advertised as an HBAR, by the manufacturer. That is not a HBAR.

This. This is the MSP's "definition" of HBAR.

That upper is not HBAR. From the BCM page that was linked:

The SOCOM M4 profile is a mid-weight profile barrel for the M4A1 Carbine.

It's a mid-weight barrel.

It's stupid, as we all know, but just like the list of what is and what isn't a banned copycat rifle, MSP basically says, "go ask the manufacturer or seller if it's legal," but they reserve the right to decide what is and isn't an HBAR or a Copycat whenever they want to. Right now, as it pertains to barrels, it's "marked or advertised by the manufacturer as a heavy barrel."

Pinecone · Dec 1, 2015

aquaman said:
. the definition of hbar is doesn't reduce in diameter under the handguards. its gtg, dont spread bad info

1) Show me that in writing? MSP or the law do NOT specify what a "heavy": barrel is. MSP says if the manufacturer says it is heavy, it is heavy.

2) Look at the quote, that if from the ad that was linked. The ad says MEDIUM barrel. So by MSP terms, that is NOT legal in MD.

MKR03 · Dec 1, 2015

aquaman said:
. the definition of hbar is doesn't reduce in diameter under the handguards. its gtg, dont spread bad info

Straight from the description :

Duty rifles are built to be carried - day in and day out. The USGI barrel profiles (often referred to as the Government Profile) enable the operator to carry their weapon for longer periods of time and deploy them faster than the heavier commercial H-Barrel counterparts. The government profile barrel is also compatible with the current M203 mounting systems.

Pretty clearly NOT HBAR. Like pinecone said, there is no definition of "heavy" or "HBAR" per se (as it applies to MD criminal law). All that matters according to MSP is that the word heavy or HBAR appear somewhere (either in description, advertising or on the barrel).

aquaman · Dec 1, 2015

MKR03 said:
Straight from the description :

Pretty clearly NOT HBAR. Like pinecone said, there is no definition of "heavy" or "HBAR" per se (as it applies to MD criminal law). All that matters according to MSP is that the word heavy or HBAR appear somewhere (either in description, advertising or on the barrel).

Battered gun owners. You all make me lol.

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