Supreme Court agrees to decide gun ownership case

AssMan · Oct 20, 2014

One could argue that the spouse of a felon might have a greater need for the protection that firearms provide. :innocent0

Brooklyn · Oct 20, 2014

Sling Blade said:
I was always under the impression that firearms and felons could not be under the same roof, regardless of relation.

I get that. But if the gooberment weren't allowed to balloon to the size that it has, there would be no need for this discussion. Problem is, once the genie is out of the bottle it's damn near impossible to get it back inside.

Well then stop worrying and lay into it.

This case could be nothing or it could signifactly limit further encroachment even if the government wins...

The problem for the government is Heller. Individual rights. Due process. The wife of a felon does not get subtantive due process even if the felon did.

The court may roll over or it may unpeal the onion. Let's find out.

tc617 · Oct 20, 2014

Sling Blade said:
I was always under the impression that firearms and felons could not be under the same roof, regardless of relation.

I had a felon on probation living in my house for over a year. She did not have the combination to my safe so it was never an issue.

trickg · Oct 21, 2014

tc617 said:
I had a felon on probation living in my house for over a year. She did not have the combination to my safe so it was never an issue.

What if you didn't own a safe? Is the court going to see to it that you are issued one?

Vile Shadow · Oct 21, 2014

trickg said:
What if you didn't own a safe? Is the court going to see to it that you are issued one?

Not likely, hence the underlying question I have here.

In that scenario I could see him having to prove somehow that his firearms weren't accessible to the prohibited person, but to what extent?

And if weren't able to meet that standard to whomever's satisfaction such decisions are delegated to, would he then be subject to the ultimatum of either lose the felon, or lose your firearms?

My guess at this point would be yes.

montoya32 · Oct 21, 2014

tc617 said:
I had a felon on probation living in my house for over a year. She did not have the combination to my safe so it was never an issue.

Never an issue because no one knew or never an issue because all required parties knew and accepted the circumstances. There's a difference. :rolleyes:

press1280 · Oct 21, 2014

See US v. Huett? Court said roommate living with felon didn't lose rights because felon was in the house, only that the felon had access to the guns.

platoonDaddy · Oct 21, 2014

Sling Blade said:
As long as the guns are out of the house, and not with relatives, that should be sufficient.

Loved The G-man's comment about Mrs Liddy being well armed!

I always believed it is legal for a felon to have firearms in their home.

JohnnyE · Oct 21, 2014

I see this case having implications beyond firearms. I recall there have been some sex offender cases where the offender was not allowed to have internet access. Does that mean the offender's spouse would also have to do without?

Vile Shadow · Oct 21, 2014

JohnnyE said:
I see this case having implications beyond firearms. I recall there have been some sex offender cases where the offender was not allowed to have internet access. Does that mean the offender's spouse would also have to do without?

That may very well be the case, otherwise it would be unenforceable.

gabe72 · Oct 21, 2014

There was a case from texas where the dr became prohibited and scotus said wife didnt lose here 2a to keep guns, this is something thats over due in my opinion with the ease of restraining orders are given sometimes,we dont take away automobiles for from convicted drunk drivers.

JohnnyE · Oct 21, 2014

platoonDaddy said:
Loved The G-man's comment about Mrs Liddy being well armed!

I always believed it is legal for a felon to have firearms in their home.

Sling Blade said:
That may very well be the case, otherwise it would be unenforceable.

With potential 1st amendment implications, the number of folks interested in the case may multiply. Either way, I don't think you should be able to impose a punishment on the innocent spouse. PERIOD. Perhaps the felon can be prohibited from living where firearms are stored, but the law should not have anything to say regarding the behavior of an innocent party.

Mooseman · Oct 21, 2014

Yes, G. Gordon Liddy often states that Mrs. Liddy is well armed and even keeps one on his side of the bed.

Objee · Oct 21, 2014

Mooseman said:
Yes, G. Gordon Liddy often states that Mrs. Liddy is well armed and even keeps one on his side of the bed.

Yes, a convicted felon who freely admitting many times to having multiple firearms inside his home, and never once has the state of MD or the Feds prosecuted him for it.

Even after he made comments about shooting ATF agents in the head if they illegally entered his home, he has been left alone.

Inigoes · Oct 21, 2014

DestroyAllLiberals said:
**** the SCOTUS. They deny cert on all of the important cases dealing with fundamental gun rights as part of the Constitution, and then grant cert to these worthless statutory interpretation cases.

It's not worthless when the MSP show up at your door to take all your firearms, as has been previously documented.

240 towles · Oct 21, 2014

Sling Blade said:
That may very well be the case, otherwise it would be unenforceable.

While I always back stricter rules for felons, as an american, I cringe when rights are taken away from non-felons due to "unenforceable" laws. If you can't enforce them, then you can't enact them, guess they gotta come up with something else.

tc617 · Oct 21, 2014

montoya32 said:
Never an issue because no one knew or never an issue because all required parties knew and accepted the circumstances. There's a difference.

The judge, her probation officer, and case worker knew that I had firearms in the house. She did not have access to them so it was never an issue.

gabe72 · Oct 21, 2014

Mrs liddy also has one of the finest luger collections g gordon has ever seen as well so ive heard him say

chesapeakeIRON · Oct 21, 2014

trickg said:
What if you didn't own a safe? Is the court going to see to it that you are issued one?

I think this is a valid point....this may be a stretch but the thought came to mind,does the question of brown v board of education and equal rights apply here?....Should a safe be provided to a household where one one person is a felon and the other is not? How can we deny the rights of one law abiding citizen solely on the fact that he or she is married to or simply lives with a felon? Should that law abiding citizen be denied of rights solely on the grounds that a coin-habitant or spouse committed a felony? I think that that would be an infringement on the rights of the law abiding citizen if they were not allowed the opportunity to keep and bear arms based solely upon the actions or classification of another individual.

ras_oscar · Oct 24, 2014

Sling Blade said:
I was always under the impression that firearms and felons could not be under the same roof, regardless of relation.

So, if cousin John the bank robber comes to visit me for the weekend, I have to get rid of my guns until he leaves?

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