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  • MikeTF

    Ultimate Member
    Yet here in Virginia - Criminals are charged fees for their stay in jail and they have to pay to be on probation. Virginia is not alone, other states also charge prisoners:

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    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,341
    They should post the names of the sponsors of those bills and the names of every legislator who voted in favor of its passage. I'll bet that most were Democrats, they have to support their base.
     

    PO2012

    Active Member
    Oct 24, 2013
    815
    Many people fail to understand just how significant an industry crime is here in Maryland. If controlled dangerous substances were legalized for commercial sale with the only caveat being that you couldn't sell to minors Baltimore City would collapse. CDS, prostitution and burglary pay the bills in Baltimore City. It may be despicable but it's reality.

    All aspects of the criminal justice system also profit from this arrangement. Lenient sentences, insufficient prison space and no death penalty mean more criminals on the street and more revolving door justice. This generates additional demand for Police as well as prosecutors and defense attorneys. Everyone gets their piece except for your average tax payer who has to foot the bill for all of this crap.

    Some members of the defense bar can be particularly shameful in this regard (no offense intended to fabsroman). I've been cross examined by defense attorneys wearing $1,000 suits and $600 shoes and sporting a $100 haircut and been embarrassed by how poorly they represented their clients who were obviously paying them significant sums of money with the expectation that they would receive a vigorous defense. Instead they got just this side of nothing. They might as well have represented themselves and plead not guilty to an agreed statement of facts. At least they would have saving themselves a few thousand dollars. Maryland's justice system is like a cash machine to some of these folks. Browbeat your client into taking the plea or put up a half assed defense. Either way collect the money. Same thing goes for some Cops. Make non-essential or legally shaky arrests and collect the court OT, because, hey, we know they're not going to jail anyway, right? The whole system has become a feeding trough. It's sad.
     

    jessebogan

    Active Member
    Feb 25, 2012
    503
    I am OK with restoring rights to felons that have completed their sentence. However, if the Democrat party thinks that when they have "paid their debt to society" and should be allowed to vote, then they should get ALL their rights back. Right? 2A anyone? After all, nothing in the Constitution about citizens only having *some* rights... That concept should cause some spincter tightening in the GA.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 3, 2013
    27,244
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    Many people fail to understand just how significant an industry crime is here in Maryland. If controlled dangerous substances were legalized for commercial sale with the only caveat being that you couldn't sell to minors Baltimore City would collapse. CDS, prostitution and burglary pay the bills in Baltimore City. It may be despicable but it's reality.

    All aspects of the criminal justice system also profit from this arrangement. Lenient sentences, insufficient prison space and no death penalty mean more criminals on the street and more revolving door justice. This generates additional demand for Police as well as prosecutors and defense attorneys. Everyone gets their piece except for your average tax payer who has to foot the bill for all of this crap.

    Some members of the defense bar can be particularly shameful in this regard (no offense intended to fabsroman). I've been cross examined by defense attorneys wearing $1,000 suits and $600 shoes and sporting a $100 haircut and been embarrassed by how poorly they represented their clients who were obviously paying them significant sums of money with the expectation that they would receive a vigorous defense. Instead they got just this side of nothing. They might as well have represented themselves and plead not guilty to an agreed statement of facts. At least they would have saving themselves a few thousand dollars. Maryland's justice system is like a cash machine to some of these folks. Browbeat your client into taking the plea or put up a half assed defense. Either way collect the money. Same thing goes for some Cops. Make non-essential or legally shaky arrests and collect the court OT, because, hey, we know they're not going to jail anyway, right? The whole system has become a feeding trough. It's sad.

    It strikes me that this can be said for nearly every state on both coasts and all "major metropolitan areas." :sad20:
     

    lsw

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    Sep 2, 2013
    1,975
    Many people fail to understand just how significant an industry crime is here in Maryland. If controlled dangerous substances were legalized for commercial sale with the only caveat being that you couldn't sell to minors Baltimore City would collapse. CDS, prostitution and burglary pay the bills in Baltimore City. It may be despicable but it's reality.

    All aspects of the criminal justice system also profit from this arrangement. Lenient sentences, insufficient prison space and no death penalty mean more criminals on the street and more revolving door justice. This generates additional demand for Police as well as prosecutors and defense attorneys. Everyone gets their piece except for your average tax payer who has to foot the bill for all of this crap.

    Some members of the defense bar can be particularly shameful in this regard (no offense intended to fabsroman). I've been cross examined by defense attorneys wearing $1,000 suits and $600 shoes and sporting a $100 haircut and been embarrassed by how poorly they represented their clients who were obviously paying them significant sums of money with the expectation that they would receive a vigorous defense. Instead they got just this side of nothing. They might as well have represented themselves and plead not guilty to an agreed statement of facts. At least they would have saving themselves a few thousand dollars. Maryland's justice system is like a cash machine to some of these folks. Browbeat your client into taking the plea or put up a half assed defense. Either way collect the money. Same thing goes for some Cops. Make non-essential or legally shaky arrests and collect the court OT, because, hey, we know they're not going to jail anyway, right? The whole system has become a feeding trough. It's sad.

    Spot on and it goes for way more than just Baltimore or Maryland. Look at the DEA and other enforcement and justice agencies throughout the nation on one side, with the criminals being the other side of the coin. Eisenhower would have called it a legal-industrial complex. No offense intended to any individual police officers; It's just the way I see that much of our justice system, particularly with respect to drug enforcement, has developed into yet another self-perpetuating & self-serving government entitiy.
     

    j_h_smith

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 28, 2007
    28,516
    More than the Year of the Criminal. In Baltimore, it's been the century of the Criminal.
     

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