BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo - XM 855 green tips

Sirex · Mar 4, 2015

kenpo333 said:
Originally Posted by Sirex View Post
According to CTD this stuff "IS" armor piercing. Buy NOW!!!!!

This type of advertisement and conversation just might get them to ban all 556 except for frangible ammo.

Advertising yes. Conversation no. I doubt the ATF cares what ole Sirex thinks about CTD's shady advertising tactics.

Bisondice · Mar 4, 2015

https://dcpr00gbauvhc.cloudfront.ne...to-atf-director-jones-apa-framework-final.pdf

any Maryland sigs on this letter?

TheGunnyRet · Mar 6, 2015

Man, Some Vendors are just so stupid...

ironpony · Mar 6, 2015

Bisondice said:
https://dcpr00gbauvhc.cloudfront.ne...to-atf-director-jones-apa-framework-final.pdf

any Maryland sigs on this letter?

Harris?

echo6mike · Mar 6, 2015

DC-W said:
The white house petition is kicking some ass. Sign it if you haven't already
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/stop-batfe-banning-xm855-ammunition/XrvVh1cj

This, bumped for attention. Signed. >80,000 signatures so far...

Mark75H · Mar 6, 2015

Deserves its own thread ... new info

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...ned-common-at15-green-tip-ammunition-n1966761

BATF banned green tip retroactivly in January 2015 ... several laws violated

Comment period is fake, its a done deal

rbird7282 · Mar 6, 2015

Mark75H said:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...ned-common-at15-green-tip-ammunition-n1966761

BATF banned green tip retroactivly in January 2015 ... several laws violated

Comment period is fake, its a done deal

Interesting article, hope it's not true and that Congress pushes back. Unfortunately I don't see that happening.

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Rack&Roll · Mar 6, 2015

I agree, this discovery of the XM855 ban ALREADY IN PRINT, but withheld from release, needs it's own thread now.

Mark75H, I say go for it.

StickerLT · Mar 6, 2015

Framework for Deciding Sporting Purpose Ammunition pursuant to 18 USC 921(a)(17)
- 15 -
in both “AR-type” rifles and “AR-type” handguns. The AR platform is the semi-automatic
version of the M16 machinegun originally designed for and used by the military. The AR-based
handguns and rifles utilize the same magazines and share identical receivers. These AR-type
handguns were not commercially available when the armor piercing ammunition exemption was
granted in 1986. To ensure consistency, upon final implementation of the sporting purpose
framework outlined above, ATF must withdraw the exemptions for 5.56 mm “green tip”
ammunition, including both the SS109 and M855 cartridges.
7

ATF recognizes that this ammunition is widely available to the public. Because it is
legally permissible to possess armor piercing ammunition under current law, withdrawing the
exemption will not place individuals in criminal possession of armor piercing ammunition.
However, with few exceptions, manufacturers will be unable to produce such armor piercing
ammunition, importers will be unable to import such ammunition, and manufacturers and
importers will be prohibited from selling or distributing the ammunition.8 ATF is specifically
soliciting comments on how it can best implement withdrawal of this exemption while
minimizing disruption to the ammunition and firearm industry and maximizing officer safety.

Section IV page 14

http://www.atf.gov/sites/default/fi..._primarily_intended_for_sporting_purposes.pdf

EL1227 · Mar 6, 2015

Rack&Roll said:
I agree, this discovery of the XM855 ban ALREADY IN PRINT, but withheld from release, needs it's own thread now.

Mark75H, I say go for it.

Color commentary here:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=3696700&postcount=43

Rack&Roll · Mar 6, 2015

Excellent, excellent post but thread has 13-word title. We need "XM855 BAN IN PRINT"

StickerLT · Mar 7, 2015

ATF says it was a publishing error....

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=171184

Jim12 · Mar 7, 2015

Doesn't men they aren't still planning to push the ban, does it?

StickerLT · Mar 7, 2015

Jim12 said:
Doesn't men they aren't still planning to push the ban, does it?

No, not in my mind anyway.

Mark75H · Mar 7, 2015

I was waiting for this ...

StickerLT said:
ATF says it was a publishing error....

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=171184

Yeah, right - expected that to come out in a few days

flintstone · Mar 7, 2015

Dicks White Marsh has these on sale today $49.98 a box. Hurry not many left. 2 box minimum.

Pinecone · Mar 7, 2015

Mark75H said:
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...ned-common-at15-green-tip-ammunition-n1966761

BATF banned green tip retroactivly in January 2015 ... several laws violated

Comment period is fake, its a done deal

Hmm, they banned it SO WELL, that it is being sold today. Yeap.

Mark75H · Mar 7, 2015

Now they are saying the January update was a mis-print ... yeah, right ... caught in the act

JohnnyE · Mar 7, 2015

All ATF said is its failure to include the sporting exemption in the 2014 guide was an error from which they are now pedaling. ATF has said nothing about withdrawing its February 13 proposal to ban M855 after the comment period closes March 16. In other words, ATF jumped the gun with the 2014 guide. They needed to keep it under wraps until after the comment period closes March 16, and they ban M855...unless we keep up the pressure and they back down.

adit · Mar 10, 2015

ATF DECIDES TO SHELVE PROPOSED BAN ON POPULAR TYPE OF BULLET AMID STRONG OPPOSITION FROM MAJORITIES IN HOUSE AND SENATE - Just reported on FoxNews.com.

BATFE To Ban Common AR-15 Ammo - XM 855 green tips

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