Atlantic Firearms MP5 Clone.

TheDevilHimself · Aug 25, 2014

-Z/28- said:
If it makes the roster, how can it be banned? That would mean MSP approved it as not being a copy.

We had to add a lot of banned firearms to the roster in order to deliver SBRs that were ordered before October 1st. One example is the PS90. I have one that was ordered as a SBR in September, but I couldn't deliver it until it was on the handgun roster.

Oldcarjunkie · Aug 25, 2014

rouchna said:
I'm in VA my friend.

Damn you.lol.... Can I come shoot it

Boss94 · Aug 25, 2014

Atlantic I believe sells those from 3 different makers. The vector brand is a great gun. There is another 1 that doesn't have the roller locking system. I'd stay away from that 1. The other brand has the roller locking bolt. But I haven't seen 1 in person or shot 1 for feedback. I love the hk platform !! There very reliable and controlable! !

rouchna · Aug 26, 2014

TheDevilHimself said:
I would go with the pistol and and add a stock, just for the fact that it requires less work than removing the faux suppressor on the rifle version.

Thank you for the advice. That's what I figured.

Oldcarjunkie said:
Damn you.lol.... Can I come shoot it

You're always welcomed.

Boss94 said:
Atlantic I believe sells those from 3 different makers. The vector brand is a great gun. There is another 1 that doesn't have the roller locking system. I'd stay away from that 1. The other brand has the roller locking bolt. But I haven't seen 1 in person or shot 1 for feedback. I love the hk platform !! There very reliable and controlable! !

I've seen the Vector model before. The one I'm looking at is the Atlantic Arms brand which has the roller locking bolt. The fit and finish is supposedly real close to the real thing...at least according to the few reviews out there.

Atlantic Firearms.com · Aug 26, 2014

We offer a wide selection of Roller Lock MP5 Style rifles and pistols . Our model offerings are growing we will be adding some neat 308 pistols very soon . We will also be offering the Arm brace for them and that dramatically increases the comfort and accuracy . If you have a question on what will be the best model for you please email us with your question, the model and your name & phone number . If simple enough we will email you back if more detailed we will be glad to give you a call. sales@atlanticfirearms.com

The pics below show the Pistol with the Atlantic Arms MP5 Style Arm Brace with Optional side folder hinge.

Atlantic Firearms.com · Aug 26, 2014

Below are pics of the Atlantic Arms K and Full Sized 9 mm roller lock pistols with no Arm braces

rouchna · Aug 26, 2014

Atlantic Firearms.com said:
If you have a question on what will be the best model for you please email us with your question, the model and your name & phone number . If simple enough we will email you back if more detailed we will be glad to give you a call. sales@atlanticfirearms.com

Thank you for chiming in on this thread. I do have some questions and will be sending you an email later today. :thumbsup:

Semper Noctem · Aug 26, 2014

This will be the next major purchase I make... damn you all.

Oldcarjunkie · Aug 26, 2014

rouchna said:
Thank you for the advice. That's what I figured.

You're always welcomed.

I've seen the Vector model before. The one I'm looking at is the Atlantic Arms brand which has the roller locking bolt. The fit and finish is supposedly real close to the real thing...at least according to the few reviews out there.

I'd bring my V93, so keep this in mind. While the vectors are nice. Mine was put together with the front sight canted. I didn't send it back cause I heard horror stories about how long and they basically broke all parts trying to get it back apart to repair his. I just threw a red dot on it and nail the bull at 100 yards.

rouchna · Aug 26, 2014

Oldcarjunkie said:
I'd bring my V93, so keep this in mind. While the vectors are nice. Mine was put together with the front sight canted. I didn't send it back cause I heard horror stories about how long and they basically broke all parts trying to get it back apart to repair his. I just threw a red dot on it and nail the bull at 100 yards.

Have you tried having a local gunsmith fix it? Either way, let's plan on shooting the snot out of them. I just sold one of my ARs locally and will be ordering the one from Atlantic.

racerbob66 · Aug 26, 2014

Oldcarjunkie said:
I'd bring my V93, so keep this in mind. While the vectors are nice. Mine was put together with the front sight canted. I didn't send it back cause I heard horror stories about how long and they basically broke all parts trying to get it back apart to repair his. I just threw a red dot on it and nail the bull at 100 yards.

I have a Vector V94 SBR that had a crooked barrel, they canted the sight to make up for it. I sent it back 3 times before they built me a new gun.

They put too many Zeros in the serial number on the new gun so it had to go back a fourth time.

This was back when the "new" Vector took over. It runs well now but it was a huge hassle shipping it back and forth four times.

Oldcarjunkie · Aug 26, 2014

rouchna said:
Have you tried having a local gunsmith fix it? Either way, let's plan on shooting the snot out of them. I just sold one of my ARs locally and will be ordering the one from Atlantic.

No haven't even tried, I'm almost afraid to see what it would cost. With the rear sight all the way adjusted , it shoots 5-6 inches off. But with the red dot it's bullseye's all day long.

racerbob66 said:
I have a Vector V94 SBR that had a crooked barrel, they canted the sight to make up for it. I sent it back 3 times before they built me a new gun.

They put too many Zeros in the serial number on the new gun so it had to go back a fourth time.

This was back when the "new" Vector took over. It runs well now but it was a huge hassle shipping it back and forth four times.

Very close story to what I heard aput the other guys V93.

rouchna · Aug 29, 2014

Another question. How are the triggers on these MP5 clones?

smdub · Aug 29, 2014

rouchna said:
Another question. How are the triggers on these MP5 clones?

Thats a good question I'd liek to see the answer to also. One would think they aren't using semi-converted surplus HK packs just due to their volume (and would be bad to market a new product based on something that could dry up.) Though I've converted a few real HK packs for my home-builds and its fairly easy. Completely cut off the corner that holds the auto sear pin, drill and ream new hole to put a pin back in to hold the sear spring, bend orig spring or just buy a semi-spring, and weld/pin a stop for the trigger so that it won't pull into the auto position, and grind off the auto catch on the hammer. I think thats all. Would be interesting to see the parts side by side. Worst case, put a real HK parts in it. They are cheap (which is rare for HK bits!)

BTW, the factory HK packs are decent but hardly target triggers. You can reduce the first stage take up and overtravel fairly easily though. I've not bothered playing w/ springs to lighten the pull though.

rouchna · Aug 29, 2014

smdub said:
Thats a good question I'd liek to see the answer to also. One would think they aren't using semi-converted surplus HK packs just due to their volume (and would be bad to market a new product based on something that could dry up.) Though I've converted a few real HK packs for my home-builds and its fairly easy. Completely cut off the corner that holds the auto sear pin, drill and ream new hole to put a pin back in to hold the sear spring, bend orig spring or just buy a semi-spring, and weld/pin a stop for the trigger so that it won't pull into the auto position, and grind off the auto catch on the hammer. I think thats all. Would be interesting to see the parts side by side. Worst case, put a real HK parts in it. They are cheap (which is rare for HK bits!)

BTW, the factory HK packs are decent but hardly target triggers. You can reduce the first stage take up and overtravel fairly easily though. I've not bothered playing w/ springs to lighten the pull though.

Thanks for all the great info. This is a platform that is not familiar to me, so a home trigger job is out of the question for now. I just hope that the trigger is tolerable out of the box. That's a lot of money to drop.

Atlantic Firearms.com · Sep 7, 2014

This is new item out from PTR 91 the PTR 51P PDW .308. These are similar in size to the original MP5 9 mm sporting a 8 inch threaded barrel with removable flash hider and MP5 style handguard . The pistols are a great Candidate for your NFA Short barreled rifle project or install a Stabilizing brace for shooting comfort and increased accuracy . The pistols have an Optic Rail on the receiver for ease of adding your favorite optic . Another nice exclusive feature is the 51P Arm Brace Ready buttcap , designed to easily take a pistol stabilizing brace if so desired .

jhcrab · Sep 7, 2014

Atlantic Firearms.com said:
This is new item out from PTR 91 the PTR 51P PDW .308. These are similar in size to the original MP5 9 mm sporting a 8 inch threaded barrel with removable flash hider and MP5 style handguard . The pistols are a great Candidate for your NFA Short barreled rifle project or install a Stabilizing brace for shooting comfort and increased accuracy . The pistols have an Optic Rail on the receiver for ease of adding your favorite optic . Another nice exclusive feature is the 51P Arm Brace Ready buttcap , designed to easily take a pistol stabilizing brace if so desired .

MD legal ? If no, can it be made MD legal? Cost ?

RoboRay · Sep 7, 2014

Should be MD-legal.

I know what I'm asking Santa to bring me this year!

DaemonAssassin · Sep 7, 2014

RoboRay said:
Should be MD-legal with the brace installed... I imagine that pushes it past 29 inches OAL.

I know what I'm asking Santa to bring me this year!

A pistol has no minimum OAL requirement according to Federal or State law(s).

RoboRay · Sep 8, 2014

Oh, you're absolutely right... I saw that beautiful thing and immediately lost my ability to think coherently!

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