Transferring SKS from out of state

virtus · Aug 23, 2010

What is the deal with transferring an SKS from out of state. I found one in PA but I'm not sure if I would have to have it shipped to my FFL. I looked up the laws on this and it is quite confusing, for me anyway. From what I gather, it depends on the configuration of the rifle (pistol grip, removable mags etc). I'll post a picture of the rifle in case that helps. I was hoping I could drive to pick it up in person. Any help would be appreciated.

-Ryan

Oldcarjunkie · Aug 23, 2010

do you have a C&R? If so you can have it shipped to you direct(not those mags though), I was also told that if you have a C&R that you can drive up and get it.

Chaunsey · Aug 24, 2010

Oldcarjunkie said:
do you have a C&R? If so you can have it shipped to you direct(not those mags though), I was also told that if you have a C&R that you can drive up and get it.

with C&R you can go get it or receive it either way, except that while in that stock that gun is not C&R, it must be in original configuration.

you can still go and pick it up yourself if you dont have a C&R if it is being sold by a dealer, if not, you will have to have it shipped to a dealer in MD to receive it.

virtus · Aug 24, 2010

Thanks for the quick responses. Unfortunately, no C&R, and this is not being sold by a dealer. Looks like this dashes my hopes of being able to save a few bucks. Just to be clear though, an SKS with removable mags and/or pistol grip is considered a regulated firearm? This was my interpretation.

...OH and FWIW, those are 20 rnd mags.

Chaunsey · Aug 24, 2010

rparke4 said:
Thanks for the quick responses. Unfortunately, no C&R, and this is not being sold by a dealer. Looks like this dashes my hopes of being able to save a few bucks. Just to be clear though, an SKS with removable mags and/or pistol grip is considered a regulated firearm? This was my interpretation.

...OH and FWIW, those are 20 rnd mags.

its the removable mags that make it regulated, pistol grip is fine.

Jaybeez · Aug 24, 2010

Private seller to private seller across state lines needs to have a FFL involved.

If you know the seller, the 2 of you could meet at a mutually convenient FFL on either side of the line and be done in 5 minutes, if its unregulated.

Detachable mags make a sks regulated, so buy it with the factory non detachable mag installed, and pick up some detachable ones "later".

In regulated form it would have to go to a MD FFL and 7 day wait.

hvymax · Aug 24, 2010

If it is unregulated would'nt FTF be ok? If you can buy from a dealer out of state OTD why not private? I am pretty much sure it would need to go back in the wood stock/w fixed mag for the handoff technically but other than that PA handoff should be fine.

Maryland Hunter · Aug 24, 2010

hvymax said:
If it is unregulated would'nt FTF be ok? If you can buy from a dealer out of state OTD why not private? I am pretty much sure it would need to go back in the wood stock/w fixed mag for the handoff technically but other than that PA handoff should be fine.

A very big No-No. FTF on long guns from another state is violation of federal law. Gun must go through an FFL, unless the buyer is a C&R holder, and the gun meets the criteria for C&R. As the OP stated he is not a C&R holder, and the seller is not a FFL, the gun must be sent to a MD FFL for the buyer to pick up there. I guess the seller could take it to a PA FFL, and the seller go there to purchase, but it seems like a roundabout way to do the same thing.

MH

Biggfoot44 · Aug 24, 2010

"If the gun were configured in nonregulated status" , the buyer and seller could meet at a PA FFL. Seller hands gun to FFL, he enters it into bound book. 5 seconds later the FFL sells it to buyer.

hvymax · Aug 24, 2010

Biggfoot44 said:
"If the gun were configured in nonregulated status" , the buyer and seller could meet at a PA FFL. Seller hands gun to FFL, he enters it into bound book. 5 seconds later the FFL sells it to buyer.

+ his fee.

virtus · Aug 24, 2010

I sure do wish I lived 15 minutes north of here, in PA :banghead:

Thanks for the info fellas

Tootall · Aug 24, 2010

your fine FTF no problem with an unregulated rifle. just go up buy it and bring it on back your fine.

mikec · Aug 24, 2010

Tootall said:
your fine FTF no problem with an unregulated rifle. just go up buy it and bring it on back your fine.

HUH?? If the seller is not a FFL, then what you suggest is a violation of the GCA '68. Yep, Federal crime.

Tootall · Aug 24, 2010

mikec said:
HUH?? If the seller is not a FFL, then what you suggest is a violation of the GCA '68. Yep, Federal crime.

nvm i re read it i thought he said the dealer was an FFL. oops :innocent0

its still early

hvymax · Aug 24, 2010

Tootall said:
nvm i re read it i thought he said the dealer was an FFL. oops its still early

That was the guy who "pulled the trigger" on an AK deal in WV.

Chaunsey · Aug 24, 2010

rparke4 said:
I sure do wish I lived 15 minutes north of here, in PA

Thanks for the info fellas

in PA the law would be exactly the same except for the magazine issue, but all you need to do is have the guy ship the mags to your house seperately and theres no problem.

all the other transfer stuff is federal law.

as someone else mentioned, since you're so close to PA, if you drive up there to pick it up, you and the seller could go to an FFL and he could hand it over to the FFL, the FFl then sells it to you like you were buying it from him, basically its a consignment sale with a predetermined buyer.

its easier and cheaper to pay the FFL and leave with the rifle right away than to have the guy ship it to a dealer who you would also have to pay a fee too ontop of shipping cost.

yellowsled · Aug 24, 2010

hvymax said:
That was the guy who "pulled the trigger" on an AK deal in WV.

someone call me?

robmints · Apr 24, 2015

Private party pa resident owns sks. Maryland c&r holder. Can the Maryland c&r holder go to pa and buy the c&r sks from the pa resident?

mvee · Apr 24, 2015

robmints said:
Private party pa resident owns sks. Maryland c&r holder. Can the Maryland c&r holder go to pa and buy the c&r sks from the pa resident?

Yes. Maryland C&R holder is a FFL and can purchase a C&R eligible firearm in any state that allows it.

The only thing I would worry about in this instance would be if the SKS had a removable magazine installed. If it did I would remove it before bringing it back to Maryland.

Reptile · Apr 24, 2015

Let's assume the buyer takes possession of the SKS in its original configuration, which means it has the non-detachable magazine. Would it not be illegal for him to then convert it to use a detachable magazine?

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