Nay. Unless you have no other options, it's better than a big pointy stick, but only until you get into stabbing distance.
I vote yay!
A 410 shotgun with a slug is more powerful than most pistol rounds and some people do better with long guns. Also, not everyone can handle the recoil of a 12 gage and maybe even a 20 gage. So for some people the .410 will be ideal and for everyone else, well, if 600 plus foot pounds muzzle energy slug isn't enough to stop your neighborhood attacker, then you might want to move out of that neighborhood.
I vote yay!
A 410 shotgun with a slug is more powerful than most pistol rounds and some people do better with long guns. Also, not everyone can handle the recoil of a 12 gage and maybe even a 20 gage. So for some people the .410 will be ideal and for everyone else, well, if 600 plus foot pounds muzzle energy slug isn't enough to stop your neighborhood attacker, then you might want to move out of that neighborhood.
If a .410 slug out of a shotgun can kill a deer with a body shot, I have no hesitations about it's effects on a man.Even a modest centerfire long-gun trumps all but the largest handguns, and would be effective against most any intruder if properly loaded, in the case of the .410, the longest 000 buck shell it will safely chamber. A 3 inch shell has 5 .35cal pellets, and the gel test below shows 16" penetration, which is sufficient for defense. The problem with slugs is that they are very light, fast, and most are all lead (1/5oz=86gr, 1500-1700fps), they tend to fragment instead of penetrate, and jacketed or copper modern slug designs are hard to come by, but would probably be plenty effective, roughly 7.62X25 ballistics. More or less, 410 would be plenty sufficient for HD "on paper", and for some who could not handle something bigger, it might just be the way to go.
410 000 buck gel-test
If a .410 slug out of a shotgun can kill a deer with a body shot, I have no hesitations about it's effects on a man.
With the buckshot, I might worry about spread and missing the target alltogether, but if they are far enough away for that to happen, then you can probably get off a second shot in time.
If a .410 slug out of a shotgun can kill a deer with a body shot, I have no hesitations about it's effects on a man.
With the buckshot, I might worry about spread and missing the target alltogether, but if they are far enough away for that to happen, then you can probably get off a second shot in time.
A .22 rimfire can kill a deer but like a .410 it's illegal in the Peoples Republic of Md and for good reason. Sorry Novus, a .410 doesn't pack enough ass if you want a sure kill of the democrat intruder in the middle of the night. If I HAD to only use a .410 it would be a dbl barrel.
In some states it is legal to hunt deer with them, and I mentioned a body shot because I know a .22 can kill with a head shot and I had a feeling someone would bring that up.A .22 rimfire can kill a deer but like a .410 it's illegal in the Peoples Republic of Md and for good reason. Sorry Novus, a .410 doesn't pack enough ass if you want a sure kill of the democrat intruder in the middle of the night. If I HAD to only use a .410 it would be a dbl barrel.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BQY/is_6_49/ai_100727291/pg_2?tag=artBody;col1In terms of performance, there is really no comparison. The flat point and hollow point Foster slugs, with Winchester at 93 grains and Remington and Federal at 97 grains are completely outclassed by the 114-grain Brenneke. The Fosters tended to shatter into flat slivers, while the Brenneke maintained its integrity, expanding to .455 inch.
The Brenneke's performance is roughly comparable to a hot, light-bullet load in a .40 S&W pistol. The performance of the Foster slugs is somewhere around the .32 S&W long to .32 H&R Magnum level. The greatest fault with the Foster design is that the slugs come apart after a relatively shallow penetration.
After extensive testing, it's my opinion that the Brenneke is an adequate deer load at close range. The Fosters are strictly for small game. Having said this, it must be admitted that a lot of deer have been taken with the .22 long rifle cartridge and my local gun shop owner told me that one of his customers took one deer a year for eight years with .410 bore Foster slugs.
For me, it's a carbine, pistols, and a 12ga that I trust for HD, but then again, like most here, I practice alot, and can handle a 12ga. For folks that aren't really "gun people", elderly, small women, or the disabled, a 410 pump is a readily available, easy to shoot/light recoil, inexpensive, and reliable defensive weapon. I agree that bigger would be better, but not everyone can handle a larger long gun, and I am not convinced a 410 would be less effective than a run of the mill revolver, that is used in a huge number of succesful defensive scenarios
In some states it is legal to hunt deer with them, and I mentioned a body shot because I know a .22 can kill with a head shot and I had a feeling someone would bring that up.
I don't care how much it might break up, at 600 or 700 foot pounds energy, even a balled up paper wad is going to do tremendous damage to someone. The Republican intruder's ass would be grass.
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Hell, with that smokepole being fired indoors they will probably die of smoke inhalation first.I keep one loaded weapon in the house, the 12 ga and rifles are either way too long or powerful. The .44 mag is probably too powerful as well so my choice is the Walker, close to being on par with a .357, if I miss em I can club an elephant with the 9 inch barrel or tenderize the stringiest democrat.
Hmm, kinda reminds me of the weapons of mass destruction trick. You Repubs are tricky bastards.Novus, Novus, Novus you're overlooking the fundamentals of house break-ins. Our fictitious Republican in question would only need to point to the ceiling and exclaim a flying saucer is loose in the house. That should allow him a minimum of 5 minutes for the democrat to ask his long gone nemesis "where"?
Hell, with that smokepole being fired indoors they will probably die of smoke inhalation first.