Max Power
Confused Reactionary
Do I have to register mine if and when I move there?
Are HBAR AR15s regulated firearms?
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Lou45
R.I.P.
Bona Fide AR HBAR's are currently NOT regulated in MD.
rockstarr
Major Deplorable
only by how big your wallet is
JettaRed
Ultimate Member
Previously regulated long Guns are now banned. AR-15 HBARs are not banned. Ergo, they are no longer regulated. There is no place to designate a regulated firearm as a rifle on the new registration forms. Likewise, there is no requirement to go through MSP for stripped lowers either.
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For the 77R "Application to purchase a firearm" you are correct, for the "New Resident Registration" there is manufacturer, model, serial number, and I think caliber. Not sure if that has rifle on it or not.
Gmercury2000
Ultimate Member
I'm a little confused, when stated no need to go through msp for stripped lowers. Are they C&C now? Or is that regarding moving into MD with a stripped lower that it does not have to be registered?
Incorrect. MSP requires a 77r for stripped lowers. See 3rd paragraph of advisory. Ask Nate at Engage about it.
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- Feb 4, 2013
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HBARs were NEVER regulated firearms.
MSP contends that stripped lowers are regulated, since you could built it into a pistol.
MSP contends that stripped lowers are regulated, since you could built it into a pistol.
Muleskinner
Ultimate Member
1) why would you move to this liberal utopia?
2) Why would you voluntarily let anyone know what you do or do not have?
Max Power
Confused Reactionary
We are in the heart of Eurabia. The barbarians that were at the gate are now on the inside, courtesy of Mad Merkel. Lo Power, aka Frau Wifey, wants out before it is too late. A suitable position may be in the works in the Peoples' Republic of Maryland.
As to your second question, Max Power has three bar admissions that are the source of his livelihood. He would prefer to keep them. As distasteful as he finds living in a liberal cess pool with a high infestation rate, he may have no choice.
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Sirex
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Only if your are married. You have to pay the diamond tax stamp.
Blacksmith101
Grumpy Old Man
- Jun 22, 2012
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Just because you work in Maryland does not mean you have to live in Maryland. The majority of Maryland is within commuting distance of another state. You will find many Maryland workers don't live here so before you commit look at a map. For the Washington Metro area the choices are usually Virginia, West Virginia, and sometimes Pennsylvania via I-270 or Delaware across the Bay Bridge. Baltimore area is usually Pennsylvania or Delaware via I-95 or train.
If you are not sure post a question to the forum and you will get advice from people who are doing it every day.
Maxsplat
Active Member
Isn't there a lawsuit to change that? I thought I had heard at one point that there was a lawsuit to change that.
BigDaddy
Ultimate Member
- Feb 7, 2014
- 2,235
There is, check back in a couple years and see how that turned out, IF the delays and appeals are exhausted by them.
Not exactly.. Engage Armament in Rockville has a case pending to overturn the MSP ruling that an SBR is subject to both the OAL of < 29" prohibition for SBR's as a copycat weapon and as a handgun.
I don't think Engage has yet sued MSP for the 77r requirement on stripped lowers but is pressuring MSP to correctly interpret the definition of a stripped lower as a regulated firearm, which by the definition in the statute, it is not.
Nate at Engage is the guy to ask about this stuff.
I don't think Engage has yet sued MSP for the 77r requirement on stripped lowers but is pressuring MSP to correctly interpret the definition of a stripped lower as a regulated firearm, which by the definition in the statute, it is not.
Nate at Engage is the guy to ask about this stuff.
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Biggfoot44
Ultimate Member
- Aug 2, 2009
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Last time I was there , lots of Bars in Virginia, and only a few charged a cover charge.
- Feb 19, 2013
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I thought Sweeney should of held up a HBAR and an AR and pointed "Legal, Illegal" "The law your honor is a crock of sh1t" .
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,477
And the libtard judge would have banned the HBAR as well.
Bear in mind that the ONLY reason HBARs are legal in this PRoMd is due to an exception written into the old weapons ban. That exception was to accommodate the US Military Shooting Teams and allow them to bring the Colt HBAR Target Rifles into the state without violating any state law. It was allowed to remain on the books with FSA2013 for the same reason. And an opinion from the MSP is all that allows us to buy HBARs other than the Colt HBAR Target model AR 15 in this state. We can ill afford to get into a pizzing match with the state over the issue. The dog sleeps... Let it...
- Feb 4, 2013
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Incorrect.
The reason HBARs are legal is due to the original Federal ban of 1994. The HBAR was a "target" rifle and was excluded to show that the anti-gunners were not against "legitimate" sporting use (target and hunting) rifles.
At the time, the ONLY target version of the AR was the Colt HBAR Match Sporter. So it got exempted.
MD only used the exact same Federal ban list for 1) the "regulate" long guns list in MD and then 2) the banned long gun list.
Look at the list in the Clinton "Crime Bill" for back then. Same exact list of rifles.
The reason HBARs are legal is due to the original Federal ban of 1994. The HBAR was a "target" rifle and was excluded to show that the anti-gunners were not against "legitimate" sporting use (target and hunting) rifles.
At the time, the ONLY target version of the AR was the Colt HBAR Match Sporter. So it got exempted.
MD only used the exact same Federal ban list for 1) the "regulate" long guns list in MD and then 2) the banned long gun list.
Look at the list in the Clinton "Crime Bill" for back then. Same exact list of rifles.
RoadDawg
Nos nostraque Deo
- Dec 6, 2010
- 94,477
You have your version I have mine... I was told that the Maryland law makers were not going to allow even HBAR AR 15s into the state until the Military petitioned them to allow it so their members could travel to the state for competitive shooting and not worry about violating state law. Maryland then later agreed to use the federal list, which excluded/exempted the Colt HBAR TARGET AR 15 from the ban.
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