No More Spent Shell Casing

Minuteman · Apr 17, 2015

DC-W said:
Before Hogan won that race, 3/4 of the folks here knew Brown was going to be the governor. He isn't. We also unseated a lot of dems. Nothing was lost in annapolis this year and we managed to get something.

We DON'T know how things will shake out.
We don't know what Hogan will do.
We don't know what Pallozzi will do.

However...

We knew what Brown was going to do.
We knew what the MSP was going to.

So what can we do?
As much as we can, so that if/when an opportunity presents itself, we're in position to take it.

The more people bitch and moan about what's supposedly going to happen instead of working to make something happen, the more like NJ, NY, CT, and CA this place will become. The environment hasn't been this favorable in a long time. Strike while it's hot.

Movement was made in this last session that didn't hurt us and actually helped. How frequently has that happened in the past? Not much.

Well said!

FrankOceanXray said:
Spot bid sale of all those once fired casings?

Do they even know where they are? Already in the dump perhaps?

I have a thread asking this question, and others. Since the bill doesn't actually go into effect for several months, I presume they are sitting where they have been for the last several years until an administrative 'disposal' decision is made; if there isn't already a plan in place.

I'd love for 'us' to get them and melt them into small 'Liberty Bells' that protectors of the Constitution can purchase and bring to future rallies... any thoughts?

bhtr · Apr 17, 2015

I'd love for 'us' to get them and melt them into small 'Liberty Bells' that protectors of the Constitution can purchase and bring to future rallies... any thoughts?

I think making and selling these bells would be a great way to raise funds for future 2A battles. Quite a few of the casings were fired with my pistols. This would be a great way to get them back.

Hopefully there will be competitive bidding to procure/dispose of the brass. I doubt the antis in power would like this project to succeed and may steer the brass toward a different end.

Minuteman · Apr 17, 2015

bhtr said:
I think making and selling these bells would be a great way to raise funds for future 2A battles. Quite a few of the casings were fired with my pistols. This would be a great way to get them back.

Hopefully there will be competitive bidding to procure/dispose of the brass. I doubt the antis in power would like this project to succeed and may steer the brass toward a different end.

Great point.

You might be right, but I must say I don't think we would be better served trying to make a profit for future 2A battles.

What we need now more than ever are more legislators using their incredible experience to investigate the real issues. Ultimately, they will find that lawful gun ownership correlates better to deterring crime and a healthier society.

Minuteman · Apr 18, 2015

I met with a man today that melts metal and makes bells. I told him about this idea, he related that he thought shell casings were high in zinc and if so that's a bit dangerous (toxic gases) for him to work with; but he said he would look into it.

He makes very nice bells www.oldtownwindbells.com

dogbone · Apr 18, 2015

Minuteman said:
I met with a man today that melts metal and makes bells. I told him about this idea, he related that he thought shell casings were high in zinc and if so that's a bit dangerous (toxic gases) for him to work with; but he said he would look into it.

From Farmers Copper:

Farmer’s Copper Ltd. maintains an inventory of C26000 Cartridge Brass in sheet, plate and round rod available upon request. C260 brass, sometimes referred to as yellow brass, has a nominal composition of 70% copper and 30% zinc.

How high is too high?

protegeV · Apr 18, 2015

So assuming this goes into effect at a future date, that means if I buy a handgun before then, I still need a fired shell casing? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense :banghead:

Mr H · Apr 18, 2015

protegeV said:
So assuming this goes into effect at a future date, that means if I buy a handgun before then, I still need a fired shell casing? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense

Between now and COB 9/30, yep.

Just told the wife a little bit ago, I just can't wait for Hogan to sign the bill, and people to complain to the internet that they shouldn't still have to provide it on day one...

hodgepodge · Apr 19, 2015

So it's higher than 3%?

dogbone · Apr 19, 2015

hodgepodge said:
So it's higher than 3%?

Yep, but we should be able to get them made in about two weeks.

OrbitalEllipses · Apr 19, 2015

ironpony · Apr 20, 2015

Where do they keep the casings? Would you bet a friend of hogans gets the contract therefore proving his 2A friendliness.

rseymorejr · Apr 20, 2015

ironpony said:
Where do they keep the casings? Would you bet a friend of hogans gets the contract therefore proving his 2A friendliness.

As long as it's not the same guy that worked on that website for Brown

Schipperke · Apr 20, 2015

Scrap and Governement

When my father was a Dental technician at the VA, one job no one wants is cleaning out the suction unit and duct work. He accepted the OT to do so, then sold all the gold dust and got a wad of cash for that too.

Could be as easy as giving Maryland a price to dispose of those shells. :innocent0

spclopr8tr · Apr 24, 2015

So I have done exhaustive (to me at least) searches and cannot find whether Hogan has signed SB 736 yet or not. I saw where he signed 121 bills, but 736 wasn't listed. Anyone know its status?

Mr H · Apr 24, 2015

spclopr8tr said:
So I have done exhaustive (to me at least) searches and cannot find whether Hogan has signed SB 736 yet or not. I saw where he signed 121 bills, but 736 wasn't listed. Anyone know its status?

All I see is that's still pending.

I don't know where to check to see if it's on the schedule.

danb · Apr 24, 2015

I think that there are two more signing sessions. Can't recall the dates offhand (I want to say one is the 28th of Apr??). Once it's signed it will show up under the bill status in mgaleg.maryland.gov.

Bertfish · May 5, 2015

Was not signed on April 28, at least not as far as I can tell

BigDaddy · May 5, 2015

Bertfish said:
Was not signed on April 28, at least not as far as I can tell

May 12th is the final bill signing session according to the guv's webpage

Sundazes · May 5, 2015

Does this bill pass if he does not sign it?

BigDaddy · May 5, 2015

Thanks for the education Mr H

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