This One Goes To Eleven
Rocker
So I took my PTR 91 out to Cresap for the 2nd time yesterday.(I suppose this is a kind of a range report, but I can't say much for accuracy type stuff cause I'm one of those dudes that just shoots the target to hell. I do think it is shooting left though I'll deal with that next time)
First range trip I tried it with some steel case Tul stuff, Silver Bear SP, and some Winchester Super X Power-Point I picked up at Walmart. About 60 rounds total, all functioned fine.
Today my buddy tagged a long and we had some real issues with the ammo he brought. He was saying it was Remington but after I checked the bottom of the casing it was stamped Winchester. I can only assume it was more super x because he said he got it at walmart for $20.
Anyway, everything was going fine until he sat down and started shooting his stuff. Basically, the rifle became a bolt action with FTE every round and no cycling of the action. We finally figured out it was the ammo since the UMC I had brought was shooting ok. He wasted 20 bucks on the stuff though so he figured we should just shoot the rest of it to get rid of the junk.
With about 5 rounds left the bolt got completely stuck and wouldn't budge with a fair amount of force on the cocking handle. I ended up field stripping and taking the bolt out. The casing was stuck against the bolt and we almost had to get pliers until we finally wiggled it off.
I do love the rifle though. Took me a while to get use to the weight and cocking function, but I'm starting to feel really comfortable with it.
Saftey is a bear to push with your thumb. Drum sight is very quick on target.
Brass flying out at Mach 2 is kind of cool and kind of annoying at the same time. No problem at Cresap though as it just bounces off the dividers and about 10-15 feet out onto the range. Extremely easy to field strip. 4 big pieces. Love it.
Cleaning is my only real complaint. This darn thing is a PIG! My god, take the 1911, put 50 rounds through it, whipe it out, clean the barrel, oil, done. 10 minutes. This oinker... I feel like a chimney sweep cleaning this thing.
Overall all so far with the ammo
TulAmmo - loves this stuff
Silver Bear - likes it too
Winchester Super X (day 1) - fine
Rem. UMC - no failures but the blowback felt noticeably late as well as weak (like a gas blowback airsoft gun)
Winchester ? (day 2) - horrible. did not cycle action and bolt jammed up
I'm a little concerned about it not shooting the Winchester stuff. I heard the WWB 7.62x51 is bad in PTRs but I've read that stuff is marked with a NATO stamp. I don't know I'll have to try to find out what it was and try more maybe it was a fluke.
Next I'll try to order some surplus but it'll have to wait a bit. I spent all my dough on a wide forend w/ bipod and valentines day stuff for the woman.
Also, does anyone know where I can get feeler gauges? I checked the tool and automotive sections at walmart but with no luck.
Edit: thanks for pointing towards feeler gauges guys. Bolt gap is .014
Update: I just changed the stock and hand guard. Note: The GI version DOES have the large rear buffer screw correct to HK 91s and unlike the other PTRs. It is held in with RED loctite. Took me about 2 hours to change the stock and I couldn't get the screw in to the new one. I'm going to keep at it but I believe the rear screw is not important to the function of the buffer.
Before
After
First range trip I tried it with some steel case Tul stuff, Silver Bear SP, and some Winchester Super X Power-Point I picked up at Walmart. About 60 rounds total, all functioned fine.
Today my buddy tagged a long and we had some real issues with the ammo he brought. He was saying it was Remington but after I checked the bottom of the casing it was stamped Winchester. I can only assume it was more super x because he said he got it at walmart for $20.
Anyway, everything was going fine until he sat down and started shooting his stuff. Basically, the rifle became a bolt action with FTE every round and no cycling of the action. We finally figured out it was the ammo since the UMC I had brought was shooting ok. He wasted 20 bucks on the stuff though so he figured we should just shoot the rest of it to get rid of the junk.
With about 5 rounds left the bolt got completely stuck and wouldn't budge with a fair amount of force on the cocking handle. I ended up field stripping and taking the bolt out. The casing was stuck against the bolt and we almost had to get pliers until we finally wiggled it off.
I do love the rifle though. Took me a while to get use to the weight and cocking function, but I'm starting to feel really comfortable with it.
Saftey is a bear to push with your thumb. Drum sight is very quick on target.
Brass flying out at Mach 2 is kind of cool and kind of annoying at the same time. No problem at Cresap though as it just bounces off the dividers and about 10-15 feet out onto the range. Extremely easy to field strip. 4 big pieces. Love it.
Cleaning is my only real complaint. This darn thing is a PIG! My god, take the 1911, put 50 rounds through it, whipe it out, clean the barrel, oil, done. 10 minutes. This oinker... I feel like a chimney sweep cleaning this thing.
Overall all so far with the ammo
TulAmmo - loves this stuff
Silver Bear - likes it too
Winchester Super X (day 1) - fine
Rem. UMC - no failures but the blowback felt noticeably late as well as weak (like a gas blowback airsoft gun)
Winchester ? (day 2) - horrible. did not cycle action and bolt jammed up
I'm a little concerned about it not shooting the Winchester stuff. I heard the WWB 7.62x51 is bad in PTRs but I've read that stuff is marked with a NATO stamp. I don't know I'll have to try to find out what it was and try more maybe it was a fluke.
Next I'll try to order some surplus but it'll have to wait a bit. I spent all my dough on a wide forend w/ bipod and valentines day stuff for the woman.
Also, does anyone know where I can get feeler gauges? I checked the tool and automotive sections at walmart but with no luck.
Edit: thanks for pointing towards feeler gauges guys. Bolt gap is .014
Update: I just changed the stock and hand guard. Note: The GI version DOES have the large rear buffer screw correct to HK 91s and unlike the other PTRs. It is held in with RED loctite. Took me about 2 hours to change the stock and I couldn't get the screw in to the new one. I'm going to keep at it but I believe the rear screw is not important to the function of the buffer.
Before
After
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