Carry Permit Modification UPDATE!!!!

ericahls · Apr 22, 2015

As promised I am updating the progress to date.

Timeline as follows:

- MSP Received request - Friday, April 10th (FedEx - Signed for by: V.BLERIGS)
- Entered into MSP system - Monday, April 13th ( I requested name of trooper handling my modification, was told it is a process and will take 7-21 days)
- Received the following email today Wednesday, April 22nd

"" Mr. Man,

A review of your handgun permit application #43*-***** by the Maryland State Police Licensing Division Handgun Permit Unit revealed that additional information is required as follows:

1. Supporting documentation is needed to substantiate the request to add "for all lawful purposes" to your current handgun permit. The request alone is not justification to modify the permit.

If the documentation is not received in this office by May 22, 2015, your application will be disapproved.

Please return a copy of this email and the requested documentation to the Handgun Permit Unit at 1111 Reisterstown Rd., Pikesville, MD 21208. If you have further questions contact me via email.

--
Sgt. A. Knaub
Handgun Permit Section
Maryland State Police ""

Ok, so I need some advice as to what to include in the documentation. I am considering citing the fact that since the adoption of SB281 it is now a criminal violation to be outside your permit restrictions and that the restriction of "while actively involved in financial business transactions" is some what vague and up to interpretation which puts me at risk for criminal charges based on a SUBJECTIVE opinion.

I do find it kind of surreal that carrying for ALL LAWFUL purposes is not something they want to get behind.

Jack M. since you were once on that side of things I could really use some advice from you specifically.

Thanks,

Inigoes · Apr 22, 2015

It appears Hogan and company do not support the 2A

montoya32 · Apr 22, 2015

Inigoes said:
It appears Hogan and company do not support the 2A

Why would you say that? This is no reflection of Hogan and Pallozi....yet.

montoya32 · Apr 22, 2015

ericahls said:
As promised I am updating the progress to date.

Timeline as follows:

- MSP Received request - Friday, April 10th (FedEx - Signed for by: V.BLERIGS)
- Entered into MSP system - Monday, April 13th ( I requested name of trooper handling my modification, was told it is a process and will take 7-21 days)
- Received the following email today Wednesday, April 22nd

"" Mr. Man,

A review of your handgun permit application #43*-***** by the Maryland State Police Licensing Division Handgun Permit Unit revealed that additional information is required as follows:

1. Supporting documentation is needed to substantiate the request to add "for all lawful purposes" to your current handgun permit. The request alone is not justification to modify the permit.

If the documentation is not received in this office by May 22, 2015, your application will be disapproved.

Please return a copy of this email and the requested documentation to the Handgun Permit Unit at 1111 Reisterstown Rd., Pikesville, MD 21208. If you have further questions contact me via email.

--
Sgt. A. Knaub
Handgun Permit Section
Maryland State Police ""

Ok, so I need some advice as to what to include in the documentation. I am considering citing the fact that since the adoption of SB281 it is now a criminal violation to be outside your permit restrictions and that the restriction of "while actively involved in financial business transactions" is some what vague and up to interpretation which puts me at risk for criminal charges based on a SUBJECTIVE opinion.

I do find it kind of surreal that carrying for ALL LAWFUL purposes is not something they want to get behind.

Jack M. since you were once on that side of things I could really use some advice from you specifically.

Thanks,

Going through things now with MSP. Waiting for my informal review. I take it that you have a permit and want restrictions removed?

BTW, looks like my good buddy is reviewing your application too.

If you want some info, call me.

Abacab · Apr 22, 2015

Barring some formal directive from the Superintendent or the Governor to the Superintendent to change policy, nothing you say will change the outcome. As someone I know says, "There is right, there is wrong and there is reality." Unfortunately, you are dealing with reality.

If there were magic words to get restriction free permits, we'd all have them.

5.56blaster · Apr 22, 2015

Your in the Peoples Republic of Maryland did you really think things would change here? Stop thinking like a citizen and more like a subject its the Maryland thing to do! You don't have rights here you have what the politicians think you should have. And they aren't happy with what you to have and would take it away in a minute if they could. Now get in line and pay your rain tax! In Maryland you are just another brick in the wall.

Inigoes · Apr 22, 2015

montoya32 said:
Why would you say that? This is no reflection of Hogan and Pallozi....yet.

Really?

Pallozi is the MSP superintendent

Hogan is Pallozi's boss.

Last I checked, they were in charge. The COMAR gives the Superintendent wide latitude in defining "Good and Substantial"

niftyvt · Apr 22, 2015

Attach a copy of the 2nd Amendment and/or the entire Constitution.

Medshot · Apr 22, 2015

ericahls said:
As promised I am updating the progress to date.

Timeline as follows:

- MSP Received request - Friday, April 10th (FedEx - Signed for by: V.BLERIGS)
- Entered into MSP system - Monday, April 13th ( I requested name of trooper handling my modification, was told it is a process and will take 7-21 days)
- Received the following email today Wednesday, April 22nd

"" Mr. Man,

A review of your handgun permit application #43*-***** by the Maryland State Police Licensing Division Handgun Permit Unit revealed that additional information is required as follows:

1. Supporting documentation is needed to substantiate the request to add "for all lawful purposes" to your current handgun permit. The request alone is not justification to modify the permit.

If the documentation is not received in this office by May 22, 2015, your application will be disapproved.

Please return a copy of this email and the requested documentation to the Handgun Permit Unit at 1111 Reisterstown Rd., Pikesville, MD 21208. If you have further questions contact me via email.

--
Sgt. A. Knaub
Handgun Permit Section
Maryland State Police ""

Ok, so I need some advice as to what to include in the documentation. I am considering citing the fact that since the adoption of SB281 it is now a criminal violation to be outside your permit restrictions and that the restriction of "while actively involved in financial business transactions" is some what vague and up to interpretation which puts me at risk for criminal charges based on a SUBJECTIVE opinion.

I do find it kind of surreal that carrying for ALL LAWFUL purposes is not something they want to get behind.

Jack M. since you were once on that side of things I could really use some advice from you specifically.

Thanks,

Attach a transcript of Jack's speech, and while you're at it, attach a transcript of Jacqueline's speech. The request is valid based upon the crimes that are committed in this state and that you have a right to defend yourself without damn restrictions.

I'm getting tired of this crap. Hogan and Pallozzi are not deaf, dumb, or blind; they know what's going on and are refusing to do anything about it.

montoya32 · Apr 22, 2015

Inigoes said:
Really?

Pallozi is the MSP superintendent

Hogan is Pallozi's boss.

Last I checked, they were in charge. The COMAR gives the Superintendent wide latitude in defining "Good and Substantial"

When was sine die? Our community needs to be patient. The last 10 years of tyranny cannot be changed in 90, 100 or 300 days. Things will progress. I guarantee it.

MDFF2008 · Apr 22, 2015

Inigoes said:
It appears Hogan and company do not support the 2A

Yep. 90 days in office and the next 4 years have already been decided.

Books are closed.

I'm done with this place's negativity.

swinokur · Apr 22, 2015

I'm gonna guess that if and until the Gov changes the policy, the results are gonna be the same.

Inigoes · Apr 22, 2015

montoya32 said:
When was sine die? Our community needs to be patient. The last 10 years of tyranny cannot be changed in 90, 100 or 300 days. Things will progress. I guarantee it.

gprimr1 said:
Yep. 90 days in office and the next 4 years have already been decided.

Books are closed.

I'm done with this place's negativity.

How hard is it to issue a lawful order to a subordinate?

Answer: Not very hard...

swinokur · Apr 22, 2015

danb · Apr 22, 2015

It's been 90 days wheres my unlimited unrestricted free lifetime CCW/hunting license? What do you mean these things take time?! I am Veruca Salt, I want my golden goose.

mxrider · Apr 22, 2015

I would dig up crime stats for MD in general and show that they are higher than the average state in the nation justifying the apprehended fear of danger. That's about the best I could offer right now.

Medshot · Apr 22, 2015

montoya32 said:
When was sine die? Our community needs to be patient. The last 10 years of tyranny cannot be changed in 90, 100 or 300 days. Things will progress. I guarantee it.

Are you a gambling man? :innocent0

I don't understand the constant sense that disapproval of the fact that nothing has been done is overbearingly negative; I understand aspects such as wanting the GA to get out of session before trying anything, it could very well be political suicide...and? The GA is out of session, and Pallozzi has the ability to implement a change without any backlash whatsoever. He has been directly contact by numerous people, all of whom have gotten nothing but crap in return.

I don't particularly care about what your politics are; there are good people in this state having crimes committed against them and they do not have the lawful ability to protect themselves. I have a family member who just recently was the victim of some degenerate predator, and they contemplating carrying without a permit for a few days...needless to say, they decided otherwise, because they have so much that they just can't afford to lose, because politics matter more than lives.

Things can most certainly change in the coming years, but it still pisses me off. This isn't something that is "meh, kinda good for us", we have people in this state that are suffering because of political bs.

ericahls · Apr 22, 2015

danb said:
It's been 90 days wheres my unlimited unrestricted free lifetime CCW/hunting license? What do you mean these things take time?! I am Veruca Salt, I want my golden goose.

Please tell me you're joking. Exactly how many days does it take for a governor and his superintendant to support what is right and make a change? They don't need anyone else's permission to make the change, it is 100% up to them. What exactly are they waiting for the planets to align. My request is reasonable and valid.

eventhorizon · Apr 22, 2015

danb said:
I am Veruca Salt, I want my golden goose.

Can't fight the seether.

montoya32 · Apr 22, 2015

Inigoes said:
How hard is it to issue a lawful order to a subordinate?

Answer: Not very hard...

If he wants to piss all of the libtards off and ruin any bi-partisan plans and future goals, then yes. Not everything is that simple. He can declare permits to be approved and then next year we get them yanked back out from under us during the legislative session. Have some patience and wait for a long term solution.

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