Ak recievers lost receipt?

Dmacri25 · Dec 3, 2014

I know this is a topic that has been beat more then ray rice's girlfriend, but I did search and came up short.

Before the ban, I purchased serveral 80% bent ak receivers. However I have moved and in the move I cannot for the life of me find my receipts for them. This really annoys me as I'm anal about my gun paperwork. Would it be legal to build these, or do I have some interesting paperweights?

Any guidance on this would he greatly appreciated as I've had a few projects in mind.

amoebicmagician · Dec 3, 2014

only if they were bent prior to oct 1st

If not, regardless of your reciept it would be illegal to manufacture or bend a receiver

honda53s · Dec 3, 2014

I didn't get to punch Ray Rice's girlfriend so hasn't been beaten as many times as she should have been.

They had to be completed before October 1, 2013.... In other words, 80% aren't able to be tracked. You don't have to show paperwork for purchasing a block of metal.

Dmacri25 · Dec 3, 2014

They were bare bent blanks, still need to be drilled.

kenpo333 · Dec 3, 2014

I would probably delete this thread

Dmacri25 · Dec 3, 2014

Move to Wc?

dspurlock · Dec 4, 2014

kenpo333 said:
I would probably delete this thread

Please quit acting like a Battered "MD Gun Owner"..............

No law abiding member on this forum is going to suggest that all he has to do is make up a invoice that would comply with the current law, because that would be against the law and would make him a felon gun owner. The proper thing for him to do is to have documentation and make sure he follows the laws of Maryland; that the MD legislative have already passed and the MSP can't seem to understand out how enforce.

tapeman1 · Dec 4, 2014

Dmacri25 said:
They were bare bent blanks, still need to be drilled.

It's my understanding that any 80% receiver needed to be brought to at least 81% prior to 10/1 to be legal.

rob-cubed · Dec 4, 2014

There is no ATF ruling on where the line between 80% and a firearm lies, at least in terms of AK receivers. Internet opinion is that a bent AK-builder flat, or a drilled Polish blank, crosses that line. No one has tested that opinion legally.

If you bought a Polish blank and didn't modify it by drilling or welding rails on, then it definitely wasn't a firearm pre-Oct. If it's bent from an AK-builder flat, then maybe it's a firearm already. Or maybe it's not. It's highly unlikely you'd ever have to defend it in court, but no one can give you a definitive answer.

NateIU10 · Dec 4, 2014

You could always bend them to build pistols.

Waz · Dec 4, 2014

NateIU10 said:
You could always bend them to build pistols.

i like the sound of that, but i don't have any pre-ban receivers.

could i still get one of these and try to build my own?
http://www.copesdistributing.com/builders-special-parts-combo-p-8347.html

rob-cubed · Dec 4, 2014

Waz said:
i like the sound of that, but i don't have any pre-ban receivers.

could i still get one of these and try to build my own?
http://www.copesdistributing.com/builders-special-parts-combo-p-8347.html

Sure, AK pistols are still legal to build up from scratch.

Two things about that particular kit: the included Texas AK trigger is a double-hook, and won't work in that receiver without a little modification. No idea why Copes didn't go with a single-hook.

Also, if you are going with a bent Polish blank, you can purchase a fully heat-treated one on the forums for a little more. This will build up better, I'd spend the extra on a treated receiver and go with a G2 trigger instead.

thai · Dec 4, 2014

Unfortunately,
Coming on line to post this question, you may have screwed yourself. The 80% needed to be built prior to sb281.

Waz · Dec 4, 2014

rob-cubed said:
Sure, AK pistols are still legal to build up from scratch.

Two things about that particular kit: the included Texas AK trigger is a double-hook, and won't work in that receiver without a little modification. No idea why Copes didn't go with a single-hook.

Also, if you are going with a bent Polish blank, you can purchase a fully heat-treated one on the forums for a little more. This will build up better, I'd spend the extra on a treated receiver and go with a G2 trigger instead.

thanks, i appreciate the info! i haven't done a lot (any) research on building one because i thought it was a no fly zone.

i apologize to OP if i derailed the thread a little bit :thumbsup:

Alphabrew · Dec 4, 2014

I've been tempted to build a pistol with one of these but I know almost nothing about building AKs

http://www.childersguns.com/AK-47-blank

Alphabrew · Dec 4, 2014

Are AK receivers legal to buy in Maryland as investments?

kenpo333 · Dec 4, 2014

thai said:
Unfortunately,
Coming on line to post this question, you may have screwed yourself. The 80% needed to be built prior to sb281.

I agree. It seems to me that now he would have to build several ak pistols. Sometimes it is best to research than to post!

rob-cubed · Dec 4, 2014

Alphabrew said:
I've been tempted to build a pistol with one of these but I know almost nothing about building AKs

http://www.childersguns.com/AK-47-blank

They don't say the rails have been heat treated, but that's easy and it's really just the ejector tip that is critical. If I had to start all over, I'd begin with a treated Polish blank. My home-hardened receivers are still going strong but they aren't as stiff as I'd prefer.

Back when you could put a functioning AK together for $150 or so, building made sense. These days I wouldn't recommending building unless you wanted something rare/unusual.

vgplayer · Dec 4, 2014

Alphabrew said:
I've been tempted to build a pistol with one of these but I know almost nothing about building AKs

http://www.childersguns.com/AK-47-blank

Thanks for link. I hadn't come across that one before.

Alphabrew · Dec 4, 2014

rob-cubed said:
They don't say the rails have been heat treated, but that's easy and it's really just the ejector tip that is critical. If I had to start all over, I'd begin with a treated Polish blank. My home-hardened receivers are still going strong but they aren't as stiff as I'd prefer.

Back when you could put a functioning AK together for $150 or so, building made sense. These days I wouldn't recommending building unless you wanted something rare/unusual.

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