As the country goes, so goes MD in the opposite direction

sako204 · Feb 10, 2016

http://www.wbal.com/article/142507/135/state-legislators-outline-new-gun-control-proposals

Wednesday, February 10 2016
Associated Press

ANNAPOLIS (AP) -- Maryland Democrats are outlining a package of gun-control measures as part of their legislative priorities this session.

One measure discussed Wednesday would ban guns on public college campuses. Now, gun policies are decided on a campus-by-campus basis.

Another bill would ban people on the national no-fly list from buying guns. It would prevent the state police from issuing gun permits to those on the terrorist-watch list that is maintained by the FBI.

A third measure would require courts to order people convicted of a domestic-related crime to transfer their firearms to a federally licensed firearms dealer or local law enforcement within two days of conviction or probation. It would create a process for people convicted of domestic violence offences to turn in guns.

fred333 · Feb 10, 2016

Well, since it is mid-winter, we're already on that slippery slope, so....where's that ol' toboggan?

DanGuy48 · Feb 10, 2016

Well, at least we will know who the completely useless politicians are.......I guess useless politician is a bit redundant.

Soda · Feb 10, 2016

Here goes. Bend over and lube up.

dblas · Feb 10, 2016

Soda said:
Here goes. Bend over and lube up.

How about stand up and fight?

MDFF2008 · Feb 10, 2016

Is number 3 a bad thing? It is saying after they are convicted, so there is due process.

Boxtop · Feb 10, 2016

dblas said:
How about stand up and fight?

How?

We are outvoted and the politicians supporting this don't care or need to care about what we think.

So I can write letters and call my reps but that won't make a lick of difference in the end.

So tell me how to stand up and fight. Seriously.

MDFF2008 · Feb 10, 2016

Boxtop said:
How?

We are outvoted and the politicians supporting this don't care or need to care about what we think.

So I can write letters and call my reps but that won't make a lick of difference in the end.

So tell me how to stand up and fight. Seriously.

Go to Annapolis. The FSA2013 that was passed was not the FSA2013 that they wanted passed.

AssMan · Feb 10, 2016

Without reading the bills, it seems like the no-fly is the only problem here (and what's a gun permit? An HQL?)

Do any public universities permit firearms anyway?

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chuck · Feb 10, 2016

snallygaster said:
Without reading the bills, it seems like the no-fly is the only problem here (and what's a gun permit? An HQL?)

Do any public universities permit firearms anyway?

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Yes. I will restrict this to what I know about UMD. They allow people with a valid carry permit to carry on campus. That would essentially require an unrestricted carry permit that only leos can get. The state's egregiously strict laws elimiate the possibility of a firearm from being on campus for any other reason.

AssMan · Feb 10, 2016

chuck said:
Yes. I will restrict this to what I know about UMD. They allow people with a valid carry permit to carry on campus. That would essentially require an unrestricted carry permit that only leos can get. The state's egregiously strict laws elimiate the possibility of a firearm from being on campus for any other reason.

thanks!

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chuck · Feb 10, 2016

snallygaster said:
thanks!

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There isn't really anywhere to find that information. UMD student conduct talks about weapons but is vague about who is authorized to carry on campus. I talked to the UMPD police chief and this is what I got out of talking to him. I would be surprised if he likes this bill.

Stoveman · Feb 10, 2016

chuck said:
Yes. I will restrict this to what I know about UMD. They allow people with a valid carry permit to carry on campus. That would essentially require an unrestricted carry permit that only leos can get. The state's egregiously strict laws elimiate the possibility of a firearm from being on campus for any other reason.

Or contractors working there. I've put plenty of kitchens in at UMD.

dtmeyers · Feb 10, 2016

sako204 said:
Another bill would ban people on the national no-fly list from buying guns.

Do we know who pushed that bill? Considering the no-fly list disproportionately targets Muslims and people from the Middle East I'd like to ask them why they are racially profiling and targeting those people.

gruntz03 · Feb 10, 2016

gprimr1 said:
Is number 3 a bad thing? It is saying after they are convicted, so there is due process.

I understand that there are some men who were accused of domestic violence in the past, and were advised to accept a minor misdemeanor charge instead of taking there chances at a trial. They talked about this very thing on "Gun Talk" this past Sunday.

MDFF2008 · Feb 10, 2016

gruntz03 said:
I understand that there are some men who were accused of domestic violence in the past, and were advised to accept a minor misdemeanor charge instead of taking there chances at a trial. They talked about this very thing on "Gun Talk" this past Sunday.

That's a good point, but still I'm not I totally oppose this. They had their opportunity for due process.

Jim12 · Feb 10, 2016

dtmeyers said:
Do we know who pushed that bill? Considering the no-fly list disproportionately targets Muslims and people from the Middle East I'd like to ask them why they are racially profiling and targeting those people.

The no-fly list is also fraught with errors. Among others, it includes a prominent conservative national journalist, Steve Hayes of the Weekly Standard and Fox News.

Bertfish · Feb 10, 2016

Be interesting to see if the Governor comes out with any kind of position on any of these bills

Wraith · Feb 10, 2016

Serious question, is there any way for the counties that are constantly getting screwed by the GA, to reign them in? There has to be a way around this 3 county based dictatorship of the MD State House.

ih23 · Feb 10, 2016

gruntz03 said:
I understand that there are some men who were accused of domestic violence in the past, and were advised to accept a minor misdemeanor charge instead of taking there chances at a trial. They talked about this very thing on "Gun Talk" this past Sunday.

And the fact that many of these cases usually turn favorably toward the women, regardless of the actual circumstance. Many juries or judges give the less capable the benefit of the doubt. I would rather everyone retained their gun rights, and instead this state allowed women in such a hostile situation to obtain a carry permit immediately. I've heard of countless stories where women have waited for a permit, or never got one, and then died thereafter by a husband or boyfriend who beat them to death, without a firearm at that. I've heard stories of drunk men, while in rage, punching a woman, or throwing her, or throwing something at her, with enough force to kill them or commit serious physical injury. This state, like everything else, does the wrong thing to solve the problem. They always do the opposite. Give the victim a permit to properly defend herself with a firearm. That would be a more effective solution. A paper or court order or another prohibition law won't do much against a violent offender confronting a defenseless victim.

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