Deal Alert! Cabela's Pietta Model 1860 for $199

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  • Jimbob2.0

    Ultimate Member
    Feb 20, 2008
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    Talk about threads of Christmas past.

    I wish they would put some of the blackpowder rifles on serious markdown
     

    winch

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    Jan 14, 2011
    1,329
    Towson
    SMDUB........your gonna need the following stuff:
    1. Balls - my .44's use .454".
    2. Powder - I use Hogden Pistol
    3. Wonder Wads - felt for between powder and ball
    4. Percussion caps
    5. Loading stand is helpful.
    6. Powder flask or use pellets.
    7. Holster is nice - recommend Triple K
    8. Get extra cylinder/nipples if you can swing it.
    9. Nipple wrench

    Have fun, be safe. You might wanna watch some BP you tubes on loading.
     

    winch

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 14, 2011
    1,329
    Towson
    Coincidentally I had my 1860 out for a spin this afternoon. I like the way it looks and shoots. Mine does tend to get debris in the works and jam up sometimes though. Other than that, it's a good buy/good shooter. It was cold today and after about 15 shots I was done.
     

    smdub

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    Nov 14, 2012
    4,665
    MoCo
    SMDUB........your gonna need the following stuff:
    1. Balls - my .44's use .454".
    2. Powder - I use Hogden Pistol
    3. Wonder Wads - felt for between powder and ball
    4. Percussion caps
    5. Loading stand is helpful.
    6. Powder flask or use pellets.
    7. Holster is nice - recommend Triple K
    8. Get extra cylinder/nipples if you can swing it.
    9. Nipple wrench

    Have fun, be safe. You might wanna watch some BP you tubes on loading.

    Thanks. I missed the wads. No one has spare Walker cylinders in stock it seems. But I got my order in last night. Now to find powder and caps locally...
     
    Dec 31, 2012
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    What?? No Free Shipping??!!

    J/K.....great deal!!

    Couldn't combine offers but I tried... :(
    Still $3 off after shipping! :)

    Thanks. I missed the wads. No one has spare Walker cylinders in stock it seems. But I got my order in last night. Now to find powder and caps locally...

    Bass Pro Shop


    Cylinders:

    can't vouch for the place as I haven't ordered there yet but they always list many parts
    http://www.possibleshop.com/pistol-spare-cylinder.html
    also look a bit pricey

    also here
    https://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?products_id=11461&osCsid=iar3t4j95n2bb7a9iu4n7rsfa4
    I have used Dixie with no problems.
     
    Dec 31, 2012
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    I don't see any reason to get a second cylinder. It would be dangerous to have a loaded, capped cylinder separate from the revolver, anyway. What's the point?

    Make a loading stand and use the loading lever.

    http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1798061&postcount=2

    http://www.mdshooters.com/showpost.php?p=1799068&postcount=11

    It would be extremely foolish to cap a cylinder that is off of the revolver but you can safely carry one that is NOT capped. Whether it saves you time and you value that is a personal preference. I won't order one separately but I was definitely not going to turn away a free one. ;)

    Loading stands :thumbsup:

    Don't waste your money on the Cabela's stand it is questionable.
     

    smdub

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    Nov 14, 2012
    4,665
    MoCo
    It would be dangerous to have a loaded, capped cylinder separate from the revolver, anyway.

    So don't cap it until use? As I understand it, a muzzleloader w/o caps isn't considered loaded during transport. I was reading here on MDS that it's common to remove the cap after hunting and leaving the rest in. The bp isn't any more dangerous in the cylinder as it is in a flask.

    Edit: oops didn't see the other response on the next page.
     

    winch

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 14, 2011
    1,329
    Towson
    Don't cap your loaded cylinder until it is placed in the pistol where it should be. Never rest the hammer on a capped cylinder either.
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
    Dec 30, 2006
    25,338
    Carroll County
    Loaded cylinder separate from the gun = Hand Grenade.

    Think!

    If you drop a capped cylinder, the whole damn thing could go off.

    What purpose does it serve to carry a loaded cylinder? Don't tell me "rapid reload". That's mostly a Hollywood fantasy, and particularly impractical with Colts. With practice and good gear, you can reload a cap and ball gun in about one minute anyway.

    If you need to carry a handgun for any practical reason, get something modern.
     

    smdub

    Ultimate Member
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    Nov 14, 2012
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    MoCo
    Loaded cylinder separate from the gun = Hand Grenade.

    Think!

    If you drop a capped cylinder, the whole damn thing could go off.

    It would not hand grenade. It would be like shooting one round from a 1/4" barrel. You can still wait to put the caps on after it in the gun.
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
    Dec 30, 2006
    25,338
    Carroll County
    Jeez.

    "We must speak by the card, or equivocation will undo us."
    -Hamlet, Act V, Sc.1

    No, the cylinder would not turn into shrapnel.

    But all six chambers could go off, pointed up, which would be a bad thing.


    Now tell me, what advantage do you see to carrying a separate, loaded but uncapped cylinder?

    You still have to load that cylinder, so big whoop. And in the time you're knocking out the wedge, juggling three, no four separate pieces of your revolver, and reassembling with a loaded but uncapped cylinder, I can ram six paper cartridges in my one cylinder, without loosening the wedge.

    If you want a fast reload, use the New York method.

    If you need a fast reload, get a real gun.
     
    Dec 31, 2012
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    My free second cylinder is a novelty, that is all. At best it will be loaded with some bird shot and uncapped, most likely it will just be sitting at home.

    As said by Threeband the time savings is debatable.

    If you really want faster reloads get some small plastic screw/snap top tubes and measure out a few dozen charges to carry with you or try rolling paper cartridges.
    You can find tubes on ebay.
     
    Dec 31, 2012
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    "The new phone book is here, the new phone book is here!"

    Looks good and has a trigger better than my 1860.
    Cabelas just ended the sale on the extra cylinder version.
     

    Threeband

    The M1 Does My Talking
    Dec 30, 2006
    25,338
    Carroll County
    ...If you really want faster reloads get some small plastic screw/snap top tubes and measure out a few dozen charges to carry with you or try rolling paper cartridges.
    You can find tubes on ebay.


    I used to use loading tubes like these Quick Loads from Dixie:

    http://www.dixiegunworks.com/advanced_search_result.php?s=1&keywords=+quick+load

    They're squishy, sort of rubbery tubes, closed at one end. I'd throw a powder charge from my flask into each tube, then "cork" the tube with a round ball. I'd load up a bunch at home.

    In use, I'd pop the ball out of a tube and set it aside, then pour the powder charge into a chamber. Repeat for all chambers, then seat the balls.

    It's actually less efficient than the little plastic tubes with hinged plastic caps, if you can find them. Those you just pop the cap with your thumb: no screwing around setting the balls aside, then picking them up again to seat them. But I don't know where to find the snap-top tubes, and these Dixie Quick Loads are almost as good.

    North-South Skirmish Association forbids loading a revolver directly from the flask, so some sort of loading tubes are necessary. The chances of your powder flask turning into a hand grenade (there's that word again!) may be pretty slim, but it's smart to be careful with gunpowder, and these loading tubes really are fast and convenient.
     
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