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      SB281 HAS PASSED THE HOUSE

      Not surprised at all. Like I said in another post, despite unprecedented opposition, the elected representatives here have no intention of representing the people, only advancing their agenda. Sure sue their pants off. It won't matter. It will take years and waste millions. Those of you who...
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      Holding the Line in Annapolis: Round 2

      I'm not suggesting giving up, I'm just saying have realistic expectations and plan on having to do a whole LOT more to get your rights back AFTER they take them from you on March 1. I have no faith in the political process when everything is stacked against us.
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      Holding the Line in Annapolis: Round 2

      I'll be there with friends, business partners, family, and neighbors in tow. But it will do no good whatsoever just like spamming the representatives will do no good. 4000+ people there on Feb 6 and 60 hours of oral testimony and literally stacks of written testimony feet high and SB281 had...
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      SB281 Today!!

      Is it actually illegal to carry a rifle into the Capitol? If we can't carry rifles how about pitchforks torches and cauldrons of boiling tar and bags of feathers?
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      MSP wait times for handgun approval

      Paperwork on 1/10 and got call yesterday, 2/22
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      Worst case planning

      I liked your first idea about suing the state better than leaving. I suggested a few things in another thread.
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      SB281 Today!!

      Man, ain't that the truth.
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      Worst case planning

      Agree. And unfortunately most posts on the forums related to the topic seem to be one of three types: 1.) venting rage 2.) threatening to leave the state 3.) butt slapping and high fiveing over snarky emails sent to legislators For all the good any of that will do, there are few if any...
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      SB281 Today!!

      Dramatic!
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      SB281 Today!!

      Maybe I'm in the extreme minority but I'll go along with a logical approach. Do I understand correctly that the consensus is that if we maintain a low profile we have the best chance of turning the tide?
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      SB281 Today!!

      Apart from simply being rhetorical, I'm not sure what "scenario" you want to be "walked through". If 10K people peacefully demonstrated while armed, would it or would it not demonstrate that it is not firearms that are the problem, or peaceful people of sound mind with firearms that are the...
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      SB281 Today!!

      Difficult to speculate. Again, hundreds wouldn't do it. It would take thousands. Funny though, when you offer something like "overwhelming them with law suits and legislation" or "10,000 men with black rifles appearing in Annapolis" everyone latches on to the later.
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      SB281 Today!!

      Who said Revolution? That's just crazy talk. And of course they exhausted all other options.
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      SB281 Today!!

      I didn't say a few hundred (actually I didn't say it should be done at all, only that if it was done that it would be aggressive), I said 10,000. I don't know what would happen but I think it would get everyone's attention, much more so if it was peaceful. You can't arrest 10,000 people, you...
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      SB281 Today!!

      To say that you cant see it from where we are is naive. Look around you. Look at New York, Chicago, California, New Jersey, Massachusetts. Your duly elected legislature mocked you last night saying essentially that there was no chance the bill wouldn't pass. They proceeded to horse trade...
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      SB281 Today!!

      Its not simply a matter of the laws not being in our favor, friend, or I would agree with you. Its a matter of the laws being unconstitutional - i.e. illegal laws. Sure, you can say well that's for the courts to interpret, and they will, but the Constitution was written in plain language for...
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      SB281 Today!!

      Still doesn't answer the real question. After you answer the question you can proceed with the "just because you can doesn't necessarily mean you should" discussion.
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      SB281 Today!!

      Well considered. I don't disagree (sorta like "not disapproved") with almost everything you said. Thanks.
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      SB281 Today!!

      Meh. It's interesting, isn't it, that even when we - like minded individuals - discuss amongst ourselves the prospect of going armed into the capital in overwhelming numbers to demonstrate that we immediately draw back (I won't say recoil) at the idea. Even we have been conditioned to...
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      SB281 Today!!

      That is why I suspect that we will eventually lose our rights because after all is said and done, when it really comes down to risking life and limb, career and freedom, to retain a right or liberty, despite all the talk we are nothing like the founding fathers. When push comes to shove, most...
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