New to MD 7 day wait on a Hunting Rifle :/

[TylerART]

First of all thank you for adding me to the forums. And yes…… I moved to MD from VA, So… I am learning all the crazy laws that only hurt us law abiding citizens…..

I find it frustrating that I must call the ATF to obtain the information on wait times for a simple hunting rifle from Walmart. Apparently the State police don’t even know the laws. They said it was the FBI/ATF not MD that makes you wait. So I contacted the ATF, they directed me to the MD 7 day wait for regulated firearms. I am guessing MD considers every possible weapon to be a regulated firearm and rounds up AIR guns in that family loosely. I am still waiting for the state to regulate fun in the near future.

Also I have owed a Glock for About 10 years with 17 round mags that at the time was legal. So what’s the deal with my mags in MD. Do I only keep 10 rounds in it or can I go to the range and load it up?

 

[lx1x]

There is no such thing as waiting period for long guns. You don't fill out md 77r form = MD doesn't get involve.

Delay by nics check is possible though due to common names what not.

Yes you can load max allowed per dnr code (hunting wise).

Target practice.. you can load as much you can load..

You can't however buy any guns/magd in md that has cap of more than 10rd.

 

[94hokie]

There should not be a wait for any long gun anymore, only handguns. You can load the magazines to full; you just can't buy new standard capacity mags in Maryland. You can buy them outside of Maryland and bring them in.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Regulated firearms does not mean rifles and shotguns for hunting.

but as Ddean.... says in another thread
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=114585

8. Anyone who moves into the state would be required to register "all regulated firearms" with 90 days after establishing residency (see page 52). This would apply to all handguns, except muzzleloaders and antiques (pre-1899), no matter when or where they were acquired. The registration requirement also be applied to any "assault" firearm that was lawfully possessed by the new resident prior to October 1, 2013. There will be a $15 application charge, which will cover any number of handguns/regulated firearms. It appears to me that criminal penalties would apply for failure to register a handgun within 90 days, but I would appreciate some lawyer well versed in the criminal code looking at that question. If I am right, a new resident might find grandpa's old service revolver in a trunk in a few years, take it down to the local gun shop to sell it, and end up arrested for failure to register the handgun within 90 days of establishing residency.

9. Updated Sept. 13 and 16, 2013: This paragraph was originally devoted to discussion of the bill's requirement for possession of a Handgun Qualification License to "purchase, rent, or receive" a handgun. "Purchase" is self-explanatory, and "rent" is defined in the law, but "receive" is not defined. In the original presentation, I expressed concern on how this might be an issue, for example, when allowing novices to shoot handguns for the first time at a range. An inquiry to the Office of the Attorney General brought this response from an assistant attorney general on Sept. 12, 2013: "To the best of my knowledge, the Office of the Attorney General has not provided any Opinions or letters of advice on this issue." The AAG declined to offer to me any interpretation of "receive." I sent an email to the MSP in which I posed several scenarios in which a person who is under no federal or state disqualification to possessing a handgun, comes into temporary possession of a handgun, although she does not possess a HQL. (By the way, the hypothetical handgun is of recent manufacture, not a "curio or relic.") Scenario no. 1 involved a boyfriend taking his girlfriend to the gun club to try out a handgun for the first time -- I refer to this type of scenario as "temporary receipt for purposes of informal instruction or sporting purposes." Scenario no. 2 involved the boyfriend then loaning the handgun to the girlfriend to keep at her residence for defense, while she goes through the process of obtaining a HQL and purchasing her own handgun, with the understanding that she will return the handgun to the owner as soon as she lawfully acquires a new handgun; I refer to this scenario as a "bona fide loan." In an email dated Sept. 16, 2013, MSP Lt. John Cook said, "A HQL would not be needed for Scenario 1 (temporary receipt for purposes of informal instruction or sporting purposes) and Scenario 2 (bona fide loans)." This is certainly helpful information, but a number of questions remain as to where the requirement for a HQL begins -- i.e., the meaning and scope of the term "receive." I have started a separate new thread on these "receive" issues here. The regulations issued by the Maryland State Police on Sept. 20, 2013 to implement the new law do not shed any further light on the scope of the term "receive."

 

[A1Uni]

Sounds to me like maybe he got delayed by NICS as he said it was the FBI/ATF not MD.

Oh well, as was said no waiting period on legal long guns.

 

[A1Uni]

There is no such thing as waiting period for long guns. You don't fill out md 77r form = MD doesn't get involve.

Delay by nics check is possible though due to common names what not.

Yes you can load max allowed per dnr code (hunting wise).

Target practice.. you can load as much you can load..

You can't however buy any guns/magd in md that has cap of more than 10rd.

One can buy any handgun or the roster, regardless of ammo capacity, or rifle that accepts mags of any capacity. You simply can't receive mags with a capacity of 10+ within the state. The law does not ban possession though, so get all the Hi-Caps you need from a free state.

 

[TylerART]

I called the police about my Glock they said if it was purchased at a store in VA it's registered and there is no need to reregister it.

So now I am wondering why I must wait for my rifle should I call Walmart again and ask them?

 

[A1Uni]

I called the police about my Glock they said if it was purchased at a store in VA it's registered and there is no need to reregister it.

So now I am wondering why I must wait for my rifle should I call Walmart again and ask them?

Yes, and ask them if you are on a NICS delay, because there is NO Maryland required wait for long guns.

 

[TylerART]

Just called Walmart I am good to go. I think it was a silly reason honestly. When I changed my license from VA to MD the MD system could not accept all the characters to completely spell out my legal name. So they had to abbreviate my middle name and I am sure that put out a red flag in the system.

 

[lx1x]

One can buy any handgun or the roster, regardless of ammo capacity, or rifle that accepts mags of any capacity. You simply can't receive mags with a capacity of 10+ within the state. The law does not ban possession though, so get all the Hi-Caps you need from a free state.

He mentioned Walmart... so handguns is out of the question.

Don't see Walmart selling ar type guns in md..

 

[rseymorejr]

I called the police about my Glock they said if it was purchased at a store in VA it's registered and there is no need to reregister it.

You might want to look into that.
One of the provisions of the False Security Act of 2013 was that anyone moving into Maryland had 90 days to register their handguns.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

 

[daggo66]

I called the police about my Glock they said if it was purchased at a store in VA it's registered and there is no need to reregister it.

So now I am wondering why I must wait for my rifle should I call Walmart again and ask them?

You would need to talk to State Police, not county.

 

[dblas]

I called the police about my Glock they said if it was purchased at a store in VA it's registered and there is no need to reregister it.

So now I am wondering why I must wait for my rifle should I call Walmart again and ask them?

As mentioned above, you need to contact Maryland State Police, not the local police, as your handgun is not registered if it was purchased in VA. It odes need to be registered in Maryland per state law, and you have 90 days to do so from the time you received your driver's license.

 

[Mr H]

You might want to look into that.
One of the provisions of the False Security Act of 2013 was that anyone moving into Maryland had 90 days to register their handguns.

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organizati...censingDivision/Registration/NewResident.aspx

As I understand it, he was told correctly.

"Regulated Firearm" is now more a term of art (read: obfuscation), referring to the banned firearms in FSA13, and those are the arms required to be registered within 90 days of establishment of residency.

This is a part of FSA13 I've read differently than some, and wanted to see some deep assessment of, as it could create an undue burden on folks moving into MD, and expose them to even further infringement.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

I called the police about my Glock they said if it was purchased at a store in VA it's registered and there is no need to reregister it.

So now I am wondering why I must wait for my rifle should I call Walmart again and ask them?

How does Tylerart's quote not err when the law says as I posted below:

8. Anyone who moves into the state would be required to register "all regulated firearms" with 90 days after establishing residency (see page 52). This would apply to all handguns, except muzzleloaders and antiques (pre-1899), no matter when or where they were acquired.

 

[Mr H]

That is not the legislative language, which IMO contradicts itself in several places.

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

Mr H, I am still unclear on your statement. Not nitpickin on you, just unclear. Plus since the stupid Gungrabber law went into effect, my mind is having even more difficulty keeping the do's and don'ts straight due to the width and breadth and sheer number of stipulations to them

I know the info I posted was not the exact MD. Language. I may also he in err to use it as the rule to go by. Trouble I am having is there seems to be while searching, it is hard to find one source of the EXACT law as it is written.

Now I did find this link plus one to the Md State Police info.

http://www.unitedgunshop.com/maryland-gun-laws

and for the MSP

http://mdsp.maryland.gov/Organization/Pages/CriminalInvestigationBureau/LicensingDivision/FAQs.aspx

Also via wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Maryland

 

[RoadDawg]

Handguns bought outside of the state while living as a resident of another state are NOT registered in Maryland. When moving into the state of Maryland from another state... You are required to register handguns that you are bringing with you, within 90 days of establishing residency here.

Exception: IF you are a prior Maryland resident and the handgun was purchased by you in Maryland while you lived here, and you are moving back with that handgun... That handgun is already registered here and need not be registered a second time.

 

[rico903]

This

 

[chilipeppermaniac]

As per the info found here on this page dedicated to " smart gun laws save lives" Yeah Right!!! ( what THEY call Smart gun laws and what WE call them are 2 very different animals)

http://smartgunlaws.org/registration-of-firearms-policy-summary/

Item number 4 says...

4. States that Require New Residents to Report Their Firearms: California and Maryland require new residents to provide a report regarding firearms they own to law enforcement. More specifically, any handgun owner who moves into California from out-of-state on or after January 1, 1998 or any firearm owner who moves into California on or after January 1, 2014 is deemed a “personal firearm importer.” Within 60 days, the person must sell or transfer the firearm through a licensed dealer or to a sheriff or police department, or provide a report to DOJ regarding the firearm. Maryland enacted a similar law in 2013 that requires any new resident to register all handguns or assault weapons within 90 days of moving into the state.

Also, upon further digging on the same website.

http://smartgunlaws.org/registration-of-firearms-in-maryland/

Registration of Firearms in Maryland
Posted on August 11, 2015

The Secretary of the Maryland State Police maintains a permanent record of all completed transfers of “regulated firearms” (handguns and assault weapons). See the section entitled Retention of Sales & Background Checks Records in Maryland for further information

A person who moves into Maryland with the intent of becoming a resident must register all regulated firearms with the Secretary within 90 days after establishing residency.1 The application for registration must contain:

The make, model, manufacturer’s serial number, caliber, type, barrel length, and country of origin of each regulated firearm; and
The applicant’s name, address, social security number, place and date of birth, height, weight, race, eye and hair color, signature, driver’s or photographic identification soundex number, and occupation.2

The application fee is $15. 3

Registration data provided under the above provisions is not open to public inspection.4

See the Maryland Assault Weapons section for information on the registration of assault weapons.

Maryland has no other firearm registration requirements.

See our Registration of Firearms policy summary for a comprehensive discussion of this issue.

Md. Code Ann., Pub. Safety § 5-143(a)(1). [↩]
Md. Code Ann., Pub. Safety § 5-143(b). [↩]
Md. Code Ann., Pub. Safety § 5-143(c). [↩]