Has Brian Frosh Stuck It To Us Again?

[Conductor]

I read on another forum that AG Frosh has issued a ruling that mere possession of a concealed handgun permit from another state constitutes "reasonable suspicion" to justify a warrantless car search.

For example, if a Virginia driver who has a CHP gets stopped for a traffic infraction, Virginia DMV will notify MSP that the driver has a CHP. AG Frosh has allegedly ruled that such notification constitutes reasonable suspicion.

Personally, I think the AG is full of it, but we all know he's a gun hater, so his ruling (if what I read is true) is not really surprising.

Anybody here have any info on this?

 

[Mr H]

Sounds suspiciously like a regurgitated topic from a couple years back.

If memory serves (yeah, right... on an undercaffeinated Monday morning), this was more a misinformed scare than a real 'thing'...

 

[pbharvey]

Reasonable suspicion of what?

 

[lx1x]

Oh I hope its true... So they can say buhbye to tourism industry and hope he gets sued left and right.

 

[CrazySanMan]

Oh I hope its true... So they can say buhbye to tourism industry and hope he gets sued left and right.

If this is true, what it means for me is that I would pay for the plane ticket for my mother in Baltimore to fly out here to visit me in Denver instead of me flying back to Baltimore. Let Denver get her money instead of Maryland getting mine.

 

[Mr Bear]

I read on another forum that AG Frosh has issued a ruling that mere possession of a concealed handgun permit from another state constitutes "reasonable suspicion" to justify a warrantless car search.

For example, if a Virginia driver who has a CHP gets stopped for a traffic infraction, Virginia DMV will notify MSP that the driver has a CHP. AG Frosh has allegedly ruled that such notification constitutes reasonable suspicion.

Personally, I think the AG is full of it, but we all know he's a gun hater, so his ruling (if what I read is true) is not really surprising.

Anybody here have any info on this?

Haven't heard of this & haven't been able to find anything about this. Source?

 

[DC-W]

Sounds like rumor-mill stuff to me.

If you can stomach it, go to the source
http://www.oag.state.md.us/Press/index.htm

 

[Schipperke]

Sounds like rumor-mill stuff to me.

If you can stomach it, go to the source
http://www.oag.state.md.us/Press/index.htm

O/T , but look at all the healthcare related fraud there.

 

[daNattyFatty]

Sounds like rumor-mill stuff to me.

If you can stomach it, go to the source
http://www.oag.state.md.us/Press/index.htm

Yep.

At any rate, searches require probable cause. Reasonable suspicion would only cut it for a Terry Stop.

 

[DC-W]

O/T , but look at all the healthcare related fraud there.

Easy-pickin's.

 

[lx1x]

Yep.

At any rate, searches require probable cause. Reasonable suspicion would only cut it for a Terry Stop.

Couple hour stop for nothing..

Remember this.

http://tbo.com/list/columns-tjackson/jackson-gun-owner-unarmed-unwelcome-in-maryland-20140112/

 

[Mark75H]

Sounds suspiciously like a regurgitated topic from a couple years back.

If memory serves (yeah, right... on an undercaffeinated Monday morning), this was more a misinformed scare than a real 'thing'...

I agree. Without the text of an opinion, this thread should be LOCKED.

 

[CharlieFoxtrot]

There have only been four formal written opinions issued by the AG in 2015 and none on this subject.

 

[AssMan]

I don't see anything on the AG site, but it sounds like Frosh's MO. As a VA CHP holder that carries nearly everyday, I find this extremely disturbing. Anyway to FOIA (or MD's equivalent) this?

 

[Mr H]

I think we can stand down.

If I had to guess, someone on that other forum probably saw the Pantalides story for the first time, and wigged out...

 

[Docster]

Yea, before jumping on the panic bandwagon, I would like to see more than an 'I read on another forum'. We've seen this before; old news, what was expressed as an opinion, and flat out incorrect stuff. On it's face it doesn't pass the sniff test.

 

[DC-W]

There's nothing to substantiate this. Nothing.

 

[Alutacon]

I read on another forum that AG Frosh has issued a ruling that mere possession of a concealed handgun permit from another state constitutes "reasonable suspicion" to justify a warrantless car search.

For example, if a Virginia driver who has a CHP gets stopped for a traffic infraction, Virginia DMV will notify MSP that the driver has a CHP. AG Frosh has allegedly ruled that such notification constitutes reasonable suspicion.

Personally, I think the AG is full of it, but we all know he's a gun hater, so his ruling (if what I read is true) is not really surprising.

Anybody here have any info on this?

Do you really have to ask if this is true? You can't possibly think it could be.

 

[zoostation]

There's no way Frosh would be that stupid to try something like that, as much as he may secretly like the idea. It would be an obvious violation of rights and the lawsuits alone would be tremendous.

 

[StanW]

Along the same line: I asked this before, but I never did see an answer. When pulled over will the officer be advised that I have an HQL?