SB 281 - Carry Permit change

[ericahls]

I can't seem to find the change in the law that now makes it a criminal offense to carry outside your permit restrictions . It used to be just a administrative violation handled with the revocation of your permit only.

Can anyone please point me to the relevant clause.

Thanks

 

[zoostation]

I think it's always been a potential criminal offense since the permit is essentially invalid once you step outside the restrictions. I say potential because it hasn't always been enforced with charges, but the ability to do so has always been there. The administrative actions taken to revoke permits are a separate civil matter.

 

[Abacab]

I think it's always been a potential criminal offense since the permit is essentially invalid once you step outside the restrictions. I say potential because it hasn't always been enforced with charges, but the ability to do so has always been there. The administrative actions taken to revoke permits are a separate civil matter.

Negative. It is new.

SB 281 ENROLLED (you can easily get to it on handgunlaw.us), page 7, lines 17 through 19. The criminalization of restrictions. If they decide you are carrying outside said restrictions, you are carrying just as illegally as the felon who just rolled out of jail. No distinction. Say goodbye to owning guns forever. Gotta love Maryland.

Per the usual though, they removed the clause for law enforcement saying they needed to be on active assignment to carry legally.

 

[zoostation]

Oh that sucks.

 

[ericahls]

Negative. It is new. SB 281 ENROLLED (you can easily get to it on handgunlaw.us), page 7, lines 17 through 19. The criminalization of restrictions. If they decide you are carrying outside said restrictions, you are carrying just as illegally as the felon who just rolled out of jail. No distinction. Say goodbye to owning guns forever. Gotta love Maryland. Per the usual though, they removed the clause for law enforcement saying they needed to be on active assignment to carry legally.

Thanks a lot for that information.

It's exactly why I sent in my request for my restrictions to "All lawful purposes" as an addendum to my current set of restrictions.

 

[Abacab]

Thanks a lot for that information.

It's exactly why I sent in my request for my restrictions to "All lawful purposes" as an addendum to my current set of restrictions.

I wish I could say I was hopeful they'd do that. Let us know what happens or PM me if you're willing. They've rephrased mine on renewal to make them even narrower. It is useful for about an hour round trip drive.

 

[ericahls]

I wish I could say I was hopeful they'd do that. Let us know what happens or PM me if you're willing. They've rephrased mine on renewal to make them even narrower. It is useful for about an hour round trip drive.

I'll be posting everything as soon as it comes back.

 

[esqappellate]

I can't seem to find the change in the law that now makes it a criminal offense to carry outside your permit restrictions . It used to be just a administrative violation handled with the revocation of your permit only.

Can anyone please point me to the relevant clause.

Thanks

The following amendment in bold to MD Code, Criminal Law, § 4-203(b)
(b) This section does not prohibit:
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(2) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun, in compliance with any limitations imposed under § 5-307 of the Public Safety Article, by a person to whom a permit to wear, carry, or transport the handgun has been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article;

 

[Abacab]

The following amendment in bold to MD Code, Criminal Law, § 4-203(b)
(b) This section does not prohibit:
(***
(2) the wearing, carrying, or transporting of a handgun, in compliance with any limitations imposed under § 5-307 of the Public Safety Article, by a person to whom a permit to wear, carry, or transport the handgun has been issued under Title 5, Subtitle 3 of the Public Safety Article;

Amazing that they can't even let the few thousands of permit holders catch a break. They look for every angle possible to make sure you can never own a gun again. If you get convicted of telephone misuse you become prohibited!

 

[Safetech]

Fortunately, I am "on-call" from 8:00 am until 10:00 PM. (Technically 24/7 for my best customers. But that's pretty rare. And I'm usually in bed by 10-11 anyway.) So anytime I'm out of the house, I could be on my way to a job a the ring of the phone.

That said; I don't press my luck buy"taking advantage" of that fact. If I'm going somewhere where I KNOW it's not likely I'll be getting a call (out for the evening, vacation, etc.) I leave it home.

We were in an accident while we were out shopping. The first thing we did was inform the officers who showed up that we were carrying (showed our permits) and told him that we were still "on-call" They had no problem at all.

 

[Schipperke]

Amazing that they can't even let the few thousands of permit holders catch a break. They look for every angle possible to make sure you can never own a gun again. If you get convicted of telephone misuse you become prohibited!

The system is doppelt gemoppelt.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

Couple Hundred bucks in the pocket keeps your carrying legal with a permit.
Good thing drug dealers don't have legit business, they would carry (legally) as well..

 

[Straightshooter]

That couple of hundred bucks in your pocket ain't going to cut it if you're coming out of the Pussycat club at 2am.

 

[GTOGUNNER]

That couple of hundred bucks in your pocket ain't going to cut it if you're coming out of the Pussycat club at 2am.

I am a fan of Mad Men.. so maybe?

 

[redeemed.man]

That couple of hundred bucks in your pocket ain't going to cut it if you're coming out of the Pussycat club at 2am.

Unless you own the club, LOL

Or the hoes are your clients.

 

[Straightshooter]

In that case, you'd be living a nightmare and you'd be denied a permit for fear of you committing suicide.

 

[redeemed.man]

In that case, you'd be living a nightmare and you'd be denied a permit for fear of you committing suicide.

Not necessarily. The hoes could be your clients legitimately at whatever business you run. They would surely pay in cash whether you are a mechanic, carpenter, doctor, etc. You could meet them at their "office" to conduct legitimate financial transactions.

 

[Straightshooter]

They could be selling cookies on the side?

 

[Abacab]

What's sad about this, in addition to being funny, is that it is a logical extension of the current permit guidelines.

 

[J.T]

Not necessarily. The hoes could be your clients legitimately at whatever business you run. They would surely pay in cash whether you are a mechanic, carpenter, doctor, etc. You could meet them at their "office" to conduct legitimate financial transactions.

Or said Hoes could be potential clients....

Or maybe you had a meeting there with a client...