Md Handgun permit interview

[TheGrizzly]

If the MSP is going to shelve your application until a “good and substantial reasons’ review, which they will do, save your fingerprinting money. They have to be the more costly live scan prints now and are only good for 30 days. We have to be a bit more patience and let this thing play out and BTW, the MSP interviewing process is always professional, it doesn’t necessarily equate to, I got a good chance of getting a “Handgun Carry Permit Moment.
Keep Your Powder Dry,
M2Cents

 

[Threeband]

I will absolutely answer fully and truthfully any question asked. I don't intend to answer questions not asked. That opens up endless possibilities.

Have you thought about how you'll answer when they ask which guns you own?

I had thought to say something like, "I own several Maryland Regulated firearms. Of course, those are all in your database. Were you wondering what I intend to carry?"

 

[Inigoes]

Have you thought about how you'll answer when they ask which guns you own?

Standard reply: you tell me

If they press the issue: Then why does MD record transfers?

 

[Threeband]

If the MSP is going to shelve your application until a “good and substantial reasons’ review, which they will do, save your fingerprinting money. They have to be the more costly live scan prints now and are only good for 30 days...

It sounds like they're processing through the background/ fingerprint/ interview stage before they shelve the applications.

If they demand a resubmission of fingerprints next fall, there will be hell to pay.

The more they muddle this process (straightforward in 43 other states) the more citizen's wrath they will incur.

 

[esqappellate]

Have you thought about how you'll answer when they ask which guns you own?

I had thought to say something like, "I own several Maryland Regulated firearms. Of course, those are all in your database. Were you wondering what I intend to carry?"

If they press for a complete list, I would want to demur respectfully. Perhaps I would start slowly listing muzzle loaders, and move on to World War One rifles.

I have 13 guns of various types, including muzzle loaders and the like. If they ask, I intend to tell them. All my guns are perfectly legal. I will answer fully and truthfully questions that are actually asked of me. If they don't ask, I see no reason to talk about it.

 

[esqappellate]

It sounds like they're processing through the background/ fingerprint/ interview stage before they shelve the applications.

If they demand a resubmission of fingerprints next fall, there will be hell to pay.

The more they muddle this process (straightforward in 43 other states) the more citizen's wrath they will incur.

I would expect (speculation hat on) that is correct. I would expect them to run the prints when they are current. I doubt that they will demand a new set when they dust the applications off, but I could be wrong. We shall see. If they do, I will comply. What's another $$$ or so (or whatever it is)?

 

[Inigoes]

I have 13 guns of various types, including muzzle loaders and the like. If they ask, I intend to tell them. All my guns are perfectly legal. I will answer fully and truthfully questions that are actually asked of me. If they don't ask, I see no reason to talk about it.

Techically BP muzzleloaders and pre-1899 centerfire (where ammo is not readily available) firearms are classified as antiques, thus not counting toward the question if asked.

 

[Bigfoot21075]

Standard reply: you tell me

If they press the issue: Then why does MD record transfers?

All due respect (yes you have earned boat loads of it) That is the wrong attitude to take with MSP. Keep in mind the Trooper doing the interview is simply there because they want to serve the citizens of Maryland and maybe do some good along the way. They may even be doing crap work hoping to get a chance at detective. There is no other reason you would intentionally choose to work for one of the lower paying hard nosed agencies. I know I was there.

They are not the enemy, thier training and higher-ups are. By becoming hostile and non-cooperative you are just creating your own obsticle...

Just my 2 cents...

 

[esqappellate]

Techically BP muzzleloaders and pre-1899 centerfire (where ammo is not readily available) firearms are classified as antiques, thus not counting toward the question if asked.

That may be a bit too technical for my taste. If it goes *boom* and they ask, I will tell them about the things that go *boom*

 

[esqappellate]

All due respect (yes you have earned boat loads of it) That is the wrong attitude to take with MSP. Keep in mind the Trooper doing the interview is simply there because they want to serve the citizens of Maryland and maybe do some good along the way. They may even be doing crap work hoping to get a chance at detective. There is no other reason you would intentionally choose to work for one of the lower paying hard nosed agencies. I know I was there.

They are not the enemy, thier training and higher-ups are. By becoming hostile and non-cooperative you are just creating your own obsticle...

Just my 2 cents...

I completely agree with this post!

 

[Inigoes]

All due respect (yes you have earned boat loads of it) That is the wrong attitude to take with MSP. Keep in mind the Trooper doing the interview is simply there because they want to serve the citizens of Maryland and maybe do some good along the way. There is nmo other reason you would intentionally choose to work for one of the lower paying hard nosed agencies. I know I was there.

They are not the enemy, thier training and higher-ups are. By becoming hostile and non-cooperative you are just creating your own obsticle...

Just my 2 cents...

I'm just using logic, if MD has amassed information from our lawfully acquired firearms, why do we need to reinterate it?

I do not want to seem antagonistic, but this is another case of not looking at information readily available to them.

edit: we're only talking about a handgun cary permit loosening the grip of 4-203, every other type of firearm is superfluous

 

[annihilation-time]

That may be a bit too technical for my taste. If it goes *boom* and they ask, I will tell them about the things that go *boom*

Some states consider them to be firearms; however, Maryland does not.

 

[Bob A]

Regarding the dossier comments, and sadly outside of the general run of this thread, I mention that the MSP in years past (and not too many of them) had assembled dossiers on people who were protesting such things as the death penalty in MD. IIRC, the MSP were taken to court and ordered ultimately to cease and desist, and to destroy the records.

Maybe they did so.

I'm not sure, what with defective memory and general lack of interest in the subject, whether the MSP did this on its own, or was ordered by one of their political masters.

I would suppose that if it became a serious concern in later years, information that was outside the scope of the necessary (dare I say Good & Substantial) reasons for issuing a permit could be ordered destroyed. Not that it makes much difference, as everyone of us is on record right here regarding our positions on the issue; doubtless deductions could be made regarding our mental status as well, if the MSP wanted to pay a tame psychiatrist.

But we retain, for now, the right peaceably to assemble here.

I pretty much loathe the thought of the info-dump; but if it's the price of admission to legal self-protection, I'll have to ante up.

 

[fordtruck317]

It seems to me that all of the questions that are being asked and who they are asking are very similar to the policies that are in place for Law Enforcement interviews. MSP do not have questions in place for the average civilian application so (in my opinion) they just use that as something to be uniform policy.
Personally I dont talk to my neighbors so I think it would be funny I they were questioned and my neighbors say "who?"

 

[MightyWarMonger]

About the question regarding how many fire arms and what types. Would asking them if MD still has volentary registration of firearms be an answer, or should I just tell them? I do not like telling them the info but I suppose I will if I have to.

 

[GBMaryland]

Call me naive (at 61, that's pretty hard), but I have faith in the rule of law. But then, I have a law degree and I am not afraid to use it in court..... It isn't much of a right if you are afraid to exercise it.

Well, let me know if you'll sue for me... I've got a few hundred K with your name on it! -wink-

Paperwork submitted...

 

[Boxcab]

"How many guns do you have?"

Well, let's see.... there is the Monday gun, a Tuesday gun... well actually there are two Tuesday guns, and then my Wednesday gun, a Thursday gun, and of course the Friday gun, on Saturday I have a selection depending on what my wife wants me to do, and then there’s my fancy go to meeting gun for Sunday service. Of course these are all seasonal, so I also have a Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter gun for each of those days... I also have a few for special occasions like my birthday gun, the one I wear for my wife’s birthday, and a couple for each of the kids that I wear in celebration... and there are 10 to 12 Government observed holidays and they each get a special gun... and we can't forget the wedding anniversary, that’s a shiny one, and my Christmas gun, it’s a very sentimental gun given to me by my grand pappi way back when I was just knee high to a toad stool... oh that reminds me, I've got a frog jigging gun and a deer gun and a rabbit gun, double barreled of course and..."

 

[Zaicran]

"How many guns do you have?"

Well, let's see.... there is the Monday gun, a Tuesday gun... well actually there are two Tuesday guns, and then my Wednesday gun, a Thursday gun, and of course the Friday gun, on Saturday I have a selection depending on what my wife wants me to do, and then there’s my fancy go to meeting gun for Sunday service. Of course these are all seasonal, so I also have a Spring, Summer, Fall and Winter gun for each of those days... I also have a few for special occasions like my birthday gun, the one I wear for my wife’s birthday, and a couple for each of the kids that I wear in celebration... and there are 10 to 12 Government observed holidays and they each get a special gun... and we can't forget the wedding anniversary, that’s a shiny one, and my Christmas gun, it’s a very sentimental gun given to me by my grand pappi way back when I was just knee high to a toad stool... oh that reminds me, I've got a frog jigging gun and a deer gun and a rabbit gun, double barreled of course and..."

 

[LCPIWB]

If the MSP is going to shelve your application until a “good and substantial reasons’ review, which they will do, save your fingerprinting money. They have to be the more costly live scan prints now and are only good for 30 days. We have to be a bit more patience and let this thing play out and BTW, the MSP interviewing process is always professional, it doesn’t necessarily equate to, I got a good chance of getting a “Handgun Carry Permit Moment.
Keep Your Powder Dry,
M2Cents

You keep your money, but the rest of us who a trying to make a splash will do so. As MSI is suggesting, if you have the money, please apply and make a statement. I do not know about he rest of the group, but I am going in knowing it will be denied....But you know, I can't be part of the class action lawsuit that is coming unless I tried and was denied.
Maybe you can follow behind those who were not afraid to lay out a few bucks and stick out their necks. At least I will go to bed knowing I am attempting to make a statement for my rights.

How about this? Show up to the next MLK open holster rally, it will only cost you a couple bucks in gas.

 

[Klunatic]

I might flip the "what gun do you intend to carry" and ask them how I am allowed to carry. If I am allowed to only conceal carry it will be "X". If can carry open it would be "Y".

Maybe I will make my "Y" gun my Ruger Red Hawk and go down the Chucky Cheese in my yellow thong bikini.