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  • ustasc

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    Jan 14, 2014
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    What are First Amendment Auditors?
    By Evan Avnet, USTASC

    Disclaimer: The following text should be read as informative only and not as legal advice, RAS, or probable cause. Contact your attorney and/or state’s attorneys office for legal advice.

    The recent months have seen a rise in the number of people who call themselves “First Amendment auditors” or “free speech activists.” These self-proclaimed activists enter businesses, public areas and other locations to test the limits of their freedom of speech and capture video footage that can then be posted on social media. While some may view these activities as harmless, they can cause serious problems for business owners, police departments and security personnel. Let's discuss what First Amendment auditors are and why they are becoming an issue.

    Auditors can be spotted easily:
    • Recording from areas adjacent to business or government building entrances
    • Recording individuals and vehicles entering and leaving the premises
    • Recording through the windows of parked vehicles, especially police vehicles
    • Moving toward property or being on property that they feel is not trespassing (i.e. not posted as trespassing). Sometimes they claim that there is a right that allows them closer to the private property.
    • Have recording equipment, usually portable video recorders such as GoPros, cell phones, or similar type devices
    • Are confrontational with business owners, police officers, and security personnel
    • Use inflammatory rhetoric in an attempt to enflame the situation so it results in an assault, that then prompts civil litigation on the property owner or complaints on law enforcement personnel
    • Use of drones over private property or government property, especially law enforcement agencies
    • Use of language such as “I don’t answer questions” , “I am not required to present identification”, “Am I committing a crime?”, “Am I being detained?”, “What is your name and ID number”.
    • Claim to support law enforcement just not “bad” law enforcement who do not support 1st amendment rights.
    Who Are They?

    First Amendment auditors are typically individuals who record their interactions with law enforcement officers, security guards or other authorities while in public places in order to test their right to free speech. They may also take pictures or film inside businesses or other private locations without permission to further demonstrate their rights. I many cases they will enter public buildings and record staff, walk around hallways, enter open offices, etc in an attempt to inflame and irritate building personnel. In many cases, these individuals claim that they are testing the boundaries of their constitutional rights, though there is no legal basis for such claims. It is important to note that these activities can be dangerous and can lead to confrontations with law enforcement or security personnel if not handled properly. It should also be noted that their activity can prompt serious civil litigation if not handled properly. Although their claims are protecting the 1st amendment, many auditors record in order to 1) obtain grounds for civil action against police, security personnel, and business owners. 2) Monetize their social media channels. 3) Make business owners, police and security personnel look bad publicly.

    What Are the Issues?

    There have been numerous reports of First Amendment auditors creating issues for business owners and police departments across the country. In some cases, these activists have entered into businesses without permission and caused disturbances by filming customers without their consent or taking pictures of employees without asking first. Additionally, many police departments have reported an increase in calls regarding these activists entering into restricted areas or attempting to interfere with law enforcement operations.

    The problem with First Amendment auditors is that they often do not understand the full scope of their rights under the Constitution as well as local laws and regulations governing public spaces. This lack of understanding can lead to confrontations between them and authority figures which can quickly escalate into dangerous situations for everyone involved.

    Business owners should be aware that 1st amendment auditors have the right to be present on public property and may even record conversations between themselves and staff members. Police and security officers should understand that recording from public property (i.e. roadway, sidewalk, park, etc) is not illegal. There is no expectation of privacy in public areas or from view from a public area. The peeping tom law does not apply unless they are recording into a window from private property.

    Businesses that choose to should post “NO TRESPASSING” signs at entryways and property boundaries, including parking lots, not just on buildings. Business owners should not confront these individuals or have discussions with them. If they are on your property business owners can call police to have them trespassed from their property.

    Laws that apply:

    • CR 6-402 MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 90 DAYS *2_2210* **TRESPASS-POSTED PROPERTY** ...did trespass and enter upon the property at _______(location), said property being posted against trespassers in a conspicuous manner.
    • CR 6-403 MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 90 DAYS *2_2220* **TRESPASS: PRIVATE PROPERTY** ...did [enter upon/remain upon/cross over] the private property, and premises of _____ (owner) after having been duly notified not to do so by _____, the [owner/agent of the owner].
    • CR 6-408 MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 90 DAYS *2_2280* **TRESPASS-PEEPING TOM** ...did enter upon the land and premises of _____ (owner) for the purpose of invading the privacy of the occupant of said premises by looking into said premises.
    • CR 6-409(a)(2) MISDEMEANOR $1,000.00 - 6 MONTHS *3_5707* **TRESPAS PUB AGNCY AFTER HR** ...did [refuse/fail to leave] _____, a property of the ______, a public agency, during regular closing hours, having no lawful business therein and having been requested to leave by ______(name) an authorized employee.
    • CR 6-409(b) MISDEMEANOR $1,000.00 - 6 MONTHS *1_0344* **TREPASS PUB AGNCY DUR HRS** ...did [refuse/fail to leave] _____, a property of ______, a public agency, during regular business hours upon being requested to do so by an authorized employee and when the defendant [had no apparent lawful business to pursue/was acting in a manner disruptive of and disturbing to the conduct of normal business]. NOTE: It must show that the acts took place during regular business hours. The facts must clearly describe "no lawful business", or the acts complained of must clearly specify how the normal business was disrupted and disturbed. Mere entrance into a public building, following a prior notification, does not amount to a criminal trespass under this section.
    • CR 6-410 MISDEMEANOR $1,000.00 - 6 MONTHS *2_2290* **TRESPASS GOVERNMENT HOUSE** ...did wantonly trespass on the property of Government House. NOTE: No requirement that the property of Government House be posted against unlawful entry or trespass.
    • CR 10-201(c)(2) MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 60 DAYS *2_0050* **DISORDERLY CONDUCT** ...did wilfully act in a disorderly manner to the disturbance of the public peace.
    • CR 10-201(c)(1) MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 60 DAYS *2_0045* **DISTURB PEACE HINDER PASSG** ...did willfully and without lawful purpose [obstruct/hinder] the free passage of another and others in a public place or on a public conveyance.
    • CR 10-201(c)(3) MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 60 DAYS *2_0055* **FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL** ...did wilfully fail to obey a reasonable and lawful order of a law enforcement officer, to wit, _____ , made to prevent a disturbance to the public peace.
    • CR 10-201(c)(4) MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 60 DAYS *2_0060* **DISTURB THE PEACE/DISORDERLY** ...did enter the [land/premises/beach] of ____(name), and did wilfully [disturb the peace of persons thereon by unreasonably loud noise/acting in disorderly manner].
    • CR 10-201(c)(5) MISDEMEANOR $500.00 - 60 DAYS *2_0065* **DISTURB PEACE - LOUD NOISE** ...did unlawfully, by unreasonably loud noise willfully disturb the peace of another [on the other's land and premises/in a place of business/in a public place/on a public conveyance].
    Aggressive 1st Amendment auditors can cause major headaches for businesses owners if left unchecked. It is essential that business owners understand that these individuals have certain rights but also know how to handle them appropriately if they become disruptive or uncooperative on private property—by contacting local law enforcement personnel immediately if necessary—in order to protect both their customers and their own business standards. Additionally, staying up-to-date with security protocols will help mitigate any potential issues caused by aggressive 1st amendment auditing activity before it becomes a problem in the first place.

    It is important for business owners and security personnel alike to be aware of how First Amendment auditing can create issues in public spaces and private businesses alike. By understanding who these activists are, what they do, and how to handle them should they arrive on your premises you can help ensure that everyone remains safe during any potential encounters with them. Furthermore, it is important for those engaging in this activity to understand the limits of their rights under both federal law as well as local regulations so as not create unnecessary conflict when exercising their rights in a public space or business setting.

    Do you agree with first amendment auditors? Why or why not?
     
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    Bertfish

    Throw bread on me
    Mar 13, 2013
    16,708
    White Marsh, MD
    These asshats were in Baltimore County last week

    Came in to the courthouse waving cameras. Can't record in the courthouse. Of course they drew the police in to an interaction trying to provoke them

    What wasn't made public was they then bombarded Baltimore County 911 with calls to a point where real emergency calls were having problems getting through. All just to try and provoke a response for YouTube views.
     

    OMCHamlin

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    May 17, 2017
    1,115
    The Cumberland Plateau
    They need to be discretely lured to a remote area with no alternate video surveillance. As for live streaming, I’m nearly certain they make signal killers that eliminate cell service, don’t they?
    Apply hickory shampoo, rinse and repeat…
     

    Abuck

    Active Member
    Some of them are outright Aholes, but others follow all laws, and still get jammed up. There’s a reason a bunch of them end up with 5 and 6 figure settlements.

    I guess some are ok with lawful carry being reason for arrest as well? Recording in courthouses IS legal in many jurisdictions, even if court rooms are not. I don’t think anyone should be arrested for following laws, especially when constitutional rights are involved.
     

    pbharvey

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    Dec 27, 2012
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    Almost all those videos are cringy and almost all of the them have at least one moment where I think "yeah what about that?" While I dislike them in general, sometimes they make a point.
     

    gamer_jim

    Active Member
    Feb 12, 2008
    11,699
    Hanover, PA
    This is a good YT channel on this topic. The guy is very respectful but firm when he is shooed away from public areas:

    There's another I can't find the link to right now where I guy audits outside churches on Sunday mornings. It's hilarious watching these church-goers get so mad that someone is exercising the same 1st amendment rights that afford them the ability to worship their deity.
     

    KingClown

    SOmething Witty
    Jul 29, 2020
    893
    Deep Blue MD
    Its a double edged sword. They help show where issues are. However they also take up resources that we dont have to spare. I see it both ways
     

    teratos

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    Jan 22, 2009
    55,107
    Bel Air
    Its a double edged sword. They help show where issues are. However they also take up resources that we dont have to spare. I see it both ways
    They take up resources because the police let them. Most auditors know the laws. Quit feeding them and they go away. Some LEO just can't let it go...
     

    The Saint

    Black Powder Nerd
    Dec 10, 2021
    523
    Baltimore County
    We either have a Constitutional Rights or we don't. Your feelings and thoughts are 100% irrelevant, and just because someone thinks it's "annoying", doesn't mean you have any right to tell them they can't do it. The same way some people want to take away your guns because *insert feelings here*?...well, saying you want to take away those 1st Amendment rights from these auditors, no matter how "annoying" they might be to you, is the EXACT same thing...infringing a constitutional right.

    Consistency...it's all I ask for.
     
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    Bertfish

    Throw bread on me
    Mar 13, 2013
    16,708
    White Marsh, MD
    We either have a Constitutional Rights or we don't. Your feelings and thoughts are 100% irrelevant, and just because someone thinks it's "annoying", doesn't mean you have any right to tell them they can't do it. The same way some people want to take away your guns because *insert feelings here*?...well, saying you want to take away those 1st Amendment rights from these auditors, no matter how "annoying" they might be to you, is the EXACT same thing...infringing a constitutional right.

    Consistency...it's all I ask for.
    I agree consistency is valuable

    They call-bombed Baltimore County 911. Essentially a denial of service attack. They may have cost lives because of their attention seeking douchebaggery

    Go find the video of their encounter with BCPD. The auditor is an attention whore trying to hassle the cops in to an altercation.

    This isn't about the 1A. It's about money and attention.
     

    KingClown

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    Jul 29, 2020
    893
    Deep Blue MD
    They take up resources because the police let them. Most auditors know the laws. Quit feeding them and they go away. Some LEO just can't let it go...
    This is true and it shows our police dont know shit about **** all. Some Auditors could go about it better. I am not against them and even keep up with some like the armed fisherman. I think they do a great service. But as said before I can see it from both sides.
     

    teratos

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    Jan 22, 2009
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    This is true and it shows our police dont know shit about **** all. Some Auditors could go about it better. I am not against them and even keep up with some like the armed fisherman. I think they do a great service. But as said before I can see it from both sides.
    I don't like the ones who are ignorant. I definitely see it from both sides.
     

    KingClown

    SOmething Witty
    Jul 29, 2020
    893
    Deep Blue MD
    I don't like the ones who are ignorant. I definitely see it from both sides.
    Thats where I am. Some do great others do well and alot of mediocre one. Then there are some that just do a horrible job of it unfortunately those are the ones that get the most attention.
     

    Kman

    Peace is underrated
    Dec 23, 2010
    11,588
    Eastern shore
    They're bear pokers.
    Ignorant and arrogant bears attack, looking like asses.
    Professional and constitutionally aware bears make the pokers look like asses.
    I wouldn't do it, but I guess it sometimes serves a purpose.
     
    May 21, 2017
    2,319
    Gaithersburg, MD
    I see exercising rights as a good thing but most of the ones I've watched on YT show a TON of disrespect from the auditors trying to bait LEO's (sorry, an LEO's or dose LEO's or...) into saying or doing something they can sue for or to simply get more likes, shares, whatever. That's disgusting behavior, IMO. With that said, I think they have actually changed some law enforcement behavior with regards to stop and ID where it's not a legal requirement.
     

    ustasc

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    Jan 14, 2014
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    We either have a Constitutional Rights or we don't. Your feelings and thoughts are 100% irrelevant, and just because someone thinks it's "annoying", doesn't mean you have any right to tell them they can't do it. The same way some people want to take away your guns because *insert feelings here*?...well, saying you want to take away those 1st Amendment rights from these auditors, no matter how "annoying" they might be to you, is the EXACT same thing...infringing a constitutional right.

    Consistency...it's all I ask for.
    Interesting view point. But, just because something is legal doesn't mean it's a good idea. There is no law restricting a person from jumping off of their own roof but, it's just not a good idea because the person may break both their legs or die. Sure, you can video tape it and monetize it but, eh... Is it a good idea exercising that right?

    Some things shouldn't be done because they are just not smart or nice. No one would like a person standing in front of their house in the roadway, albeit on public property, video taping your house. Rightly, you would be concerned. Also, being an annoyance and provoking a person to violence is two vastly different things.

    As far as thoughts and feelings, it is certainly reasonable to contend that thoughts and feelings does not infringe on constitutionality however, thoughts and feelings of the framers of the constitution is what resulted in the constitution being written. If the framers didn't have thoughts and feelings about their country and protections from England, they would have never drafted such a document.

    Although these auditors may believe that they are providing some type of constitutional service, or gain notoriety, monetize their feeds, and create civil law suits, there is also the extraordinary hazard of coming across a person with legitimate mental issues. If they approach the wrong person that person could erupt resulting in a deadly outcome. Getting in someone's face who suffers from PTSD may not have the outcome they desire. What do you think?
     
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    ustasc

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    This is true and it shows our police dont know shit about **** all. Some Auditors could go about it better. I am not against them and even keep up with some like the armed fisherman. I think they do a great service. But as said before I can see it from both sides.
    Interesting viewpoint. However, I think the majority of police officers probably know more about the law than the average citizen. They have to enforce and apply the law on a daily basis, writing statements of probable cause and completing charging documents, which require them to list the crime in the statement of charges pursuant to the commissioners manual. Most citizens do not know what a commissioners manual is. We all think that at some point we more knowledgeable laws that the police but, that's probably far from the truth unless you are are an attorney or state's attorney.

    The ultimate purveyor of the law is of course the courts, and sometimes they get it wrong.

    Some think the armed fisherman is a good idea because he is exercising his 2nd amendment rights but is there a line to what is smart behavior. In a time with many active shooters, is it particularly a good idea to walk around with a slung rifle? Does it make other 2nd amendment advocates look bad? What do you'all think?
     

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