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  • gtodave

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    Aug 14, 2007
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    Mt Airy
    Uhm...

    In a letter sent to one Florida gun dealer, Ghost Firearms, UPS said they were terminating the account because they “may be violating” laws
    So ONE dealer gets a letter because UPS doesn't want to aid in breaking any laws, and all of the sudden "UPS is going to destroy any order from any gun dealer"? Sometimes we're our own worst enemy
     

    TheBert

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    Aug 10, 2013
    6,121
    Gaithersburg, Maryland
    My cousin is an/the assistant chief 747 pilot for UPS. Who would have thunk that he could have been identified as a huge ammo consumer in Seattle and then a hatter of guns latter in life. You can address him as LtCol Pilot, USMCR (ret).
     
    Oct 29, 2021
    598
    Dallas, texas
    Use Fed Ex, while USPS can be used for shipping some things, some things are not allowed with USPS, so use Fed Ex instead.

    Not going to mention who, but some are using a different name so shippers won’t know exactly what kind of company they are. Some are shipping from ”personal” people and not having the shipper do pickups.

    however best bet is to use Fed ex.
     
    Oct 29, 2021
    598
    Dallas, texas
    FedEx is an option for parts and accessories, but not for firearms unless you 1) have an FFL, and 2) ship more than $100k with them annually (that is a requirement for their Firearms Shipping Compliance Agreement).

    Not so…

    I have shipped several firearms for “upgrades” in the last year with no issues. In both directions. Neither company has @ $100,000 contract. I paid for shipping for both ways. I packed the firearms and shipped them no issues.

    I have received parts, ammunition, ammunition parts, etc… from Fed ex for quite a while now.
     

    clandestine

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    Oct 13, 2008
    36,130
    It's not just one dealer that got a letter from UPS. Brownells got it too but they pulled their post about it. I'm assuming for legal reasons.
     

    AlBeight

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    Mar 30, 2017
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    Got a reply from Midway customer service today. Looks like they’re gtg:

    Thank you for your email inquiry. I apologize for the frustration caused by this matter. As of this morning, we confirmed that we are completely in compliance with UPS requests and shipping regulations. So there should not be any problems with our shipping with UPS. Again, I am sorry for the frustration caused.
     

    gtodave

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    I don't know if this has recently changed or not, but when you look at Brownell's shipping options, UPS is not mentioned at all. Take that for what it's worth.

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    Scan Monkey

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    Dec 29, 2021
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    Uhm...


    So ONE dealer gets a letter because UPS doesn't want to aid in breaking any laws, and all of the sudden "UPS is going to destroy any order from any gun dealer"? Sometimes we're our own worst enemy
    Without a legitimate source, this doesn't rise above a rumor.
     

    Doco Overboard

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    One time last summer I was at one of their depots with a small box that contained some g/ smith tools.
    Action wrench chamber reamer and other things for gun work etc.
    Anyway, I sent my wife in with the sealed box with address on it ( realized post office was closed on a Saturday after 12)when she came out to ask me what was in the package.
    I went in with her to talk to the clerk to let them know and when I got to the counter they had the box open going through the contents.
    That was the last time I dealt with them.
    I let them know they opened mail as far as I was concerned package was addressed/ sealed and originally intended for usps etc.
    Their corporate office was concerned / questioning attitude etc but the ceased comms eventually.
    Live / learn and move on they’re no good as far as I’m concerned but then who is really anymore.
     

    Growler215

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    Dec 30, 2020
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    Without a legitimate source, this doesn't rise above a rumor.
    Not a rumor, but exaggerated in some respects.

    The firearms shipping policy on their website now states that they will not ship "partially completed" (aka 80%) frames or receivers that are not serialized irregardless of whether or not it is legal in the state it is being shipped to. That appears to be the only thing that has changed.

    The notice they had posted about cancelling accounts and seizing shipments appears to have been taken down, but I saw it a couple of days ago.
     

    Budman16

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    Dec 20, 2019
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    Every day. Every way.

    They’re looking for subservient subjects.

    Sing along…I wish I had an Oscar Mayer wiener.

    Its Independence Day. Next year, they’re hoping for DEPENDENCE DAY

    maybe time to program those 3d printers to make pew canister bodies…buy springs now
    Agreed, does anyone know where I can by springs, risers and base plates for Canik 9 MM 18 round magazines?
     

    Bob A

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    Nov 11, 2009
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    Not a rumor, but exaggerated in some respects.

    The firearms shipping policy on their website now states that they will not ship "partially completed" (aka 80%) frames or receivers that are not serialized irregardless of whether or not it is legal in the state it is being shipped to. That appears to be the only thing that has changed.

    The notice they had posted about cancelling accounts and seizing shipments appears to have been taken down, but I saw it a couple of days ago.

    Betcha their lawyers had something to do with that. Seize and destroy, my arse.
     

    P-12 Norm

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    Sep 9, 2009
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    Bowie, MD
    Now would be a good time to evaluate a start-up of a carrier much the way Gunbroker.com evolved from Ebay refusing to allow Firearms on it's service3.
     

    10mmAuto

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    Feb 22, 2013
    27
    Two thoughts:

    1) Basic nature loves a vacuum/void -- something/someone will take advantage of the business UPS "dropped" and succeed. Besides, blocking or inhibiting legal, non-criminal shipping or correspondence is illegal in the USA.

    2) For us non-business folks who need to ship firearms or parts via UPS -- UPS does NOT need to know what is in the box. I've always just labeled the contents as "Engineered machined parts"

    Just my 2 cents
     

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