Ulysses S. Grant's Remington Revolvers to be Auctioned in May 2022

[WatTyler]

I only hope the provenance of the Russian revolvers was researched a little more thoroughly than the F&S writeup, since Nicholas II was born five years after the referenced 1863 fleet visit.

 

[smokey]

Why can I picture some rich dweeb like Bloomberg buying then and then melting them down

 

[Darkemp]

I’d say the collector who bought them in 1976 for $1500 did alright although he didn’t live to see the fruits of his purchase. I guess $1,000,000.

 

[Uncle Duke]

Meh. I can't find any 3F GOEX, so I'll pass.

(I can't find my guess of 1.1 million either)

 

[Jim12]

Theodore Roosevelt's Colt revolver sold for $1.4 million.

Alexander Hamilton's flintlocks went for $1.15 million.

Since we're taking guesses, I'm going to go with $3,275,000.

Inflation, ya' know.

https://www.thegunpeople.com/2022/03/26/ulysses-s-grants-remington-revolvers/

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...-s-grants-remington-new-model-army-revolvers/

Maybe WLP will buy them for the NRA museum. They belong in a museum.

 

[Blacksmith101]

In 2002, at Christie’s Americana Auction House, the Lafayette/Washington pistols were sold for a whopping $1,986,000 to a local Pennsylvania foundation. The foundation purchased them in commemoration of the 250th anniversary of the French and Indian War—and in recognition of the critical role that Washington played, not only in that war, but in the birth of our democracy. In the spring of 2004, the foundation donated the pistols to the Fort Ligonier Museum in Ligonier, Pa., to be on display as part of the museum’s “Washington Collection.”

https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-lafayette-washington-pistols/

 

[COACH1106]

well the Rock Island website says EST $1,000,000- $3,000,000

 

[SmokeEaterPilot]

This is a terribly interesting auction. I'll set the provenance aside (because it's simply awsome).

Everything I read about Grant and seeing these revolvers almost seem a stark contrast from one another.

Grant (aside from being probably the best General of the ACW) he was also very simple and sometimes elected the most basic of solutions to a problem. When West Point admissions got his name wrong on the rooster, he simply changed his name. Seige of Vicksburg was not terribly complicated, he remarked to "out-camp" the enemy. When he met Lee for terms of surrender, Lee put on his nicest uniform and Grant simply wore a muddied private's coat.

The revolvers are absolutely gorgeous. But if was going to imagine something that "flashy" owned by a ACW General, my first instinct would be the "showman" J.E.B. Stuart.

But that's just my take, not worth much. Just found them interesting when considered the type of man Grant was.

 

[mvee]

Meh. I can't find any 3F GOEX, so I'll pass.

(I can't find my guess of 1.1 million either)

Maybe you can find a conversion cylinder to use with them.

 

[Darkemp]

This is a terribly interesting auction. I'll set the provenance aside (because it's simply awsome).

Everything I read about Grant and seeing these revolvers almost seem a stark contrast from one another.

Grant (aside from being probably the best General of the ACW) he was also very simple and sometimes elected the most basic of solutions to a problem. When West Point admissions got his name wrong on the rooster, he simply changed his name. Seige of Vicksburg was not terribly complicated, he remarked to "out-camp" the enemy. When he met Lee for terms of surrender, Lee put on his nicest uniform and Grant simply wore a muddied private's coat.

The revolvers are absolutely gorgeous. But if was going to imagine something that "flashy" owned by a ACW General, my first instinct would be the "showman" J.E.B. Stuart.

But that's just my take, not worth much. Just found them interesting when considered the type of man Grant was.

Probably why they are still basically NIB- he probably never even fired them nor did anyone else from the looks. Too flashy for his tastes.

 

[LKGMADMAX]

I may have to sell a kid or two...

A kid, a kidney or both?

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[eruby]

https://www.whiskey-lore.com/episodes/season-one/grant-lincoln-and-a-barrel-of-old-crow

" ....Grants tactics came into question during the carnage at the Battle of Shiloh. It was a victory, but a costly one, and it was suggested that Grant may have been drinking during the heavy loss of life and that he should be removed. Lincoln was reported to say, "I can't spare this man, he fights!""


If it's good enough for Grant, it's good enough for me. I have drunken worse whiskey.

 

[M1842]

This is a terribly interesting auction. I'll set the provenance aside (because it's simply awsome).

Everything I read about Grant and seeing these revolvers almost seem a stark contrast from one another.

Grant (aside from being probably the best General of the ACW) he was also very simple and sometimes elected the most basic of solutions to a problem. When West Point admissions got his name wrong on the rooster, he simply changed his name. Seige of Vicksburg was not terribly complicated, he remarked to "out-camp" the enemy. When he met Lee for terms of surrender, Lee put on his nicest uniform and Grant simply wore a muddied private's coat.

The revolvers are absolutely gorgeous. But if was going to imagine something that "flashy" owned by a ACW General, my first instinct would be the "showman" J.E.B. Stuart.

But that's just my take, not worth much. Just found them interesting when considered the type of man Grant was.

As I recall, JEB Stuart carried LeMats as his favored sidearms.

 

[Jim12]

Wow.

I was a little low with $3.275 million (post #25).


Drum roll...

 

[Uncle Duke]

My 1.1 million guess might have been spot on, had the auction been for 1 Grant grip panel.

WOW!

 

[eruby]

I'm guzzling Old Crow bourbon, and eating Venezuelan Beaver Cheese in honor of this auction

 

[mawkie]

I wasn't even remotely close. Wondering what effect inflation has had. Is it taking just that much more in devalued $ to close the deal?

 

[somd_mustangs]

$5.17M was the realized price, so hammer must have been $4.4M? that's 3/4 of a mil buyers premium at RIA's 17.5% ... but maybe they cut some slack over a certain amount. Then the state gov't has to get their bite. But I guess if you're forking out that kind of dough, it just doesn't matter

 

[Uncle Duke]

$5.17M was the realized price, so hammer must have been $4.4M? that's 3/4 of a mil buyers premium at RIA's 17.5% ... but maybe they cut some slack over a certain amount. Then the state gov't has to get their bite. But I guess if you're forking out that kind of dough, it just doesn't matter

Yes, 4.4 hammer. Willie and the poor boys......

 

[somd_mustangs]

gotcha... so no break for the rich people on the buyer's premium
I had heard that they do cut some slack on consignment fees but that may be a myth too...