Tiny centerfire cartridge - what is it?

[Half-cocked]

I found a couple of these in a big bucket 'o spent brass I picked up recently...

Anyone have any idea what this is? It's 1.198" long, .313" across the base, and the neck is .210" across and about .182" inside.

The headstamp reads "DAG 05" and it has a standard small rifle primer.

It's pictured here next to a quarter and a piece of .223 brass, for comparison...

 

[haoleboy]

5.45x39 ??

 

[RipkinC]

.22 Gustafson?
Or... .222 Remington (ie: triple-deuce)
Im am not a expert here... I just happen to just read this earyler today on the history of the .223 http://www.thegunzone.com/556faq.html#mk262
Good site BTW

 

[novus collectus]

Couldn't find it in the Cartridges of the World.

 

[alucard0822]

looks like 17 rem fireball to me, but a little too short

 

[Rhino]

It sounds like a 4.6 x 30. The headstamp is german, and the cartridge is used in H&K. Found it on Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4.6_x_30_mm

 

[Half-cocked]

It sounds like a 4.6 x 30. The headstamp is german, and the cartridge is used in H&K. Found it on Wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4.6_x_30_mm

I think that's it! All of the dimensions I checked were nearly bang-on.

Interesting article about this caliber, thanks!

 

[houserocker]

Jeezus, a H&K PDW or HCP. I wonder who's got onna those?

 

[txiyo]

Jeezus, a H&K PDW or HCP. I wonder who's got onna those?

HK MP7-A1 shoots a 4.6x30mm

I've been seeing a lot of 5.7x28mm at the range too.

 

[4g64loser]

4.6x30mm Kraut PDW brass. the DAG headstamp is Dynamit Nobel (sidenote, i think they are the ones that used to use the Geco mark that made those cool flare guns sold by sportsmans guide) in Germany.

indeed a quandary as to who has the weapon firing it......i'd like to shoot with them.

 

[Half-cocked]

I am pretty sure it was these guys....

 

[txiyo]

4.6x30mm Kraut PDW brass.
indeed a quandary as to who has the weapon firing it......i'd like to shoot with them.

sign up then, its free. http://www.military.com/specops/index.html?ESRC=ggl_rec_spops_specforc.kw

or just show up at my Pier in Baltimore with $22,000 in cash.

 

[nate]

The ballistics are like a 22 mag from a rifle barrel.

 

[ghost]

It's probably a 5.7x28, which some police departments (we hear) are using. A friend necks it down to 17 for use on Prairie dogs, where he lives in Colorado.

 

[Half-cocked]

Rhino had it pegged - it was 4.6 x 30.

 

[4g64loser]

mark, you must not remember me, I don't take orders well.

as for specops, the only folks I know in have never mentioned use of the 7 in their familiarization courses. If I can find a semi auto one I'm sure that, under the auspices of the 07SOT i get to abuse sometimes, it can be made fully automatic.